300 BlkOut issue solved
Re: 300 BlkOut issue solved
Glad you got it figured out. That’s why I recommended taking the muzzle device off and trying it. That would have told you in one shot where the problem was. But ultimately, it’s good they’re treating you right and will go over everything and make sure it’s good.
I started shimming all my muzzle devices when I started using a suppressor. I’m too lazy to sand each one. Especially when I have 10 or 12 of them.
A smart guy once told me how to shim brakes without having to take the brake on and off. Thread the device on with no shims until it touches the shoulder. Back if off until it’s just enough before 12 o’clock that you think it’ll tighten to where it’s supposed to be. Try different shim combinations, sticking them in the side between the brake and shoulder until you get a snug fit. Take the brake off, put the shims on and tighten.
I started shimming all my muzzle devices when I started using a suppressor. I’m too lazy to sand each one. Especially when I have 10 or 12 of them.
A smart guy once told me how to shim brakes without having to take the brake on and off. Thread the device on with no shims until it touches the shoulder. Back if off until it’s just enough before 12 o’clock that you think it’ll tighten to where it’s supposed to be. Try different shim combinations, sticking them in the side between the brake and shoulder until you get a snug fit. Take the brake off, put the shims on and tighten.
Re: 300 BlkOut issue solved
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Re: 300 BlkOut issue solved
Yea, that guy didn't bother telling me about that. Can't count how many times I took the brake on and off trying different combinations. I kept having this feeling of him laughing at me until i figured it out.Jay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:21 pm Glad you got it figured out. That’s why I recommended taking the muzzle device off and trying it. That would have told you in one shot where the problem was. But ultimately, it’s good they’re treating you right and will go over everything and make sure it’s good.
I started shimming all my muzzle devices when I started using a suppressor. I’m too lazy to sand each one. Especially when I have 10 or 12 of them.
A smart guy once told me how to shim brakes without having to take the brake on and off. Thread the device on with no shims until it touches the shoulder. Back if off until it’s just enough before 12 o’clock that you think it’ll tighten to where it’s supposed to be. Try different shim combinations, sticking them in the side between the brake and shoulder until you get a snug fit. Take the brake off, put the shims on and tighten.
As for the crush washer effecting the muzzle device, i still cant see it but it must be so
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Re: 300 BlkOut issue solved
My understanding is that crush washers are fine for flash hiders because they are really generous around the muzzle, but because a good brake is so close to the bullets path, they can create issues for the reasons JustSomeDude mentioned.
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Re: 300 BlkOut issue solved
While I get it now, why does the manufacturer send a crush washer instead of a set of shims? If they did 12th Man would have not had this issue. He can't be the only one?breamfisher wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:35 pm My understanding is that crush washers are fine for flash hiders because they are really generous around the muzzle, but because a good brake is so close to the bullets path, they can create issues for the reasons JustSomeDude mentioned.
Re: 300 BlkOut issue solved
Did you watch the video I posted?Diver43 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:20 pmYea, that guy didn't bother telling me about that. Can't count how many times I took the brake on and off trying different combinations. I kept having this feeling of him laughing at me until i figured it out.Jay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:21 pm Glad you got it figured out. That’s why I recommended taking the muzzle device off and trying it. That would have told you in one shot where the problem was. But ultimately, it’s good they’re treating you right and will go over everything and make sure it’s good.
I started shimming all my muzzle devices when I started using a suppressor. I’m too lazy to sand each one. Especially when I have 10 or 12 of them.
A smart guy once told me how to shim brakes without having to take the brake on and off. Thread the device on with no shims until it touches the shoulder. Back if off until it’s just enough before 12 o’clock that you think it’ll tighten to where it’s supposed to be. Try different shim combinations, sticking them in the side between the brake and shoulder until you get a snug fit. Take the brake off, put the shims on and tighten.
As for the crush washer effecting the muzzle device, i still cant see it but it must be so
There’s enough wiggle in the threads that if the crush washer isn’t flat, it will cock the muzzle device over.
Picture this.
You put a quarter on the table. You set the edge of your whiskey glass. Now it’s tilted. Same same.
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Re: 300 BlkOut issue solved
Manufacturer should supply a set of shims instead of the crush washer. 12th Man would have never had this issue.CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:55 pmDid you watch the video I posted?Diver43 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:20 pmYea, that guy didn't bother telling me about that. Can't count how many times I took the brake on and off trying different combinations. I kept having this feeling of him laughing at me until i figured it out.Jay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:21 pm Glad you got it figured out. That’s why I recommended taking the muzzle device off and trying it. That would have told you in one shot where the problem was. But ultimately, it’s good they’re treating you right and will go over everything and make sure it’s good.
I started shimming all my muzzle devices when I started using a suppressor. I’m too lazy to sand each one. Especially when I have 10 or 12 of them.
A smart guy once told me how to shim brakes without having to take the brake on and off. Thread the device on with no shims until it touches the shoulder. Back if off until it’s just enough before 12 o’clock that you think it’ll tighten to where it’s supposed to be. Try different shim combinations, sticking them in the side between the brake and shoulder until you get a snug fit. Take the brake off, put the shims on and tighten.
As for the crush washer effecting the muzzle device, i still cant see it but it must be so
There’s enough wiggle in the threads that if the crush washer isn’t flat, it will cock the muzzle device over.
Picture this.
You put a quarter on the table. You set the edge of your whiskey glass. Now it’s tilted. Same same.
Re: 300 BlkOut issue solved
Shims are more expensive. Thats why it wasn’t done.Diver43 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:16 pmManufacturer should supply a set of shims instead of the crush washer. 12th Man would have never had this issue.CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:55 pmDid you watch the video I posted?Diver43 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:20 pm
Yea, that guy didn't bother telling me about that. Can't count how many times I took the brake on and off trying different combinations. I kept having this feeling of him laughing at me until i figured it out.
As for the crush washer effecting the muzzle device, i still cant see it but it must be so
There’s enough wiggle in the threads that if the crush washer isn’t flat, it will cock the muzzle device over.
Picture this.
You put a quarter on the table. You set the edge of your whiskey glass. Now it’s tilted. Same same.
“The shepherd slaughters more of the flock than the wolf ever will.”
Re: 300 BlkOut issue solved
Surefire sends Shims.
ThunderBeast sends shims.
Say’n.
ThunderBeast sends shims.
Say’n.
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Re: 300 BlkOut issue solved
Diver43 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:20 pmYea, that guy didn't bother telling me about that. Can't count how many times I took the brake on and off trying different combinations. I kept having this feeling of him laughing at me until i figured it out.Jay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 3:21 pm Glad you got it figured out. That’s why I recommended taking the muzzle device off and trying it. That would have told you in one shot where the problem was. But ultimately, it’s good they’re treating you right and will go over everything and make sure it’s good.
I started shimming all my muzzle devices when I started using a suppressor. I’m too lazy to sand each one. Especially when I have 10 or 12 of them.
A smart guy once told me how to shim brakes without having to take the brake on and off. Thread the device on with no shims until it touches the shoulder. Back if off until it’s just enough before 12 o’clock that you think it’ll tighten to where it’s supposed to be. Try different shim combinations, sticking them in the side between the brake and shoulder until you get a snug fit. Take the brake off, put the shims on and tighten.
Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see.
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Re: 300 BlkOut issue solved
Every little box a customer brings me with a quick change muzzle adapter has had a little pack of shims in it. I've yet to see one contain a crush washer.
Re: 300 BlkOut issue solved
YHM included shims with every QD mount I've purchased
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