The invasion...

[Gila]

A federal judge has ruled that it is legal for invaders to have weapons.

https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/202 ... l-n1224214

[Wambli Ska]

That’s a good ruling but there’s nothing to worry about….

Last gunshow I went to there were TONS of illegals buying every 80% Glock and AR receiver they could get their hands on, at resistive, with cash. A few guys were pulling little gardening wagons loaded with tac gear including plates. Spanish speakers and Chinese outnumbered English speakers about 3 to 1.

I left quick…

[Chiro1989]

I am sure their NICS check won’t show anything, they’re fine. I am sure the BATFE will do an administrative correction post haste

[Bigslug]

Some uncomfortable implications, but. . .

Just a couple months back we were all chuckling about how Hunter Biden's legal team might be using recent rulings to defend him against his gun charges; speculating how the Form 4473 may be a 5th Amendment violation, etc...

It really all comes down to this: either you're comfortable with the freedom of the individual, or you're not. As soon as you start regulating firearm ownership based on categorizations other than commissions of crimes against persons, you're on the slippery slope of needing to watch the watchers who get to decide who is too too black, too brown, too yellow, too foreign, too religious-fringe, too right, too left, or what constitutes "crazy".

As I've said repeatedly, a background check and registration process for firearm purchases is an unreasonable burden placed on the good by a system that lacks the balls to properly incarcerate or execute the truly bad. If we're willing to let them out to walk the street, we should be willing to let them buy guns and ammo in the self-checkout line at Home Depot.

The immigration thing is a problem, but if it isn't stopping at the border, the above has to apply. At that point, the "invasion" becomes a job for some joint undercover FBI/CIA task force operating under some pretty narrow mandates. Constantly crawling up the common man's butt with a microscope isn't the answer for a "free country".

[Justsomedude]

I always felt like only actual US citizens should have the comfort of constitutional rights.

[Japhy]

Refreshing myself reading my pocket Constitution it is clear the second amendment is far more explicit than voting rights. Begs the question why isn’t a voter registration card the only credential required to purchase, own, build, or carry a firearm?

[breamfisher]

Because owning a firearm is not conditional on being a voter?

[Gila]

I always felt like only actual US citizens should have the comfort of constitutional rights.

Now that would make for a good amendment...

[Bigslug]

I always felt like only actual US citizens should have the comfort of constitutional rights.

Now that would make for a good amendment...

Tends to fly in the face of "We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men are created equal", and a whole lot else of what followed. Also confronts one with the notion of "A government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take everything you have".

Agree with you that we have a human influx problem. Agree that there needs to be stronger legal measures to discourage it. Suspending those constitutional guarantees that the Founders considered to be basic human rights outside the parameters of any government for specific classes is not the way to do it. The conundrum is that while illegals may have violated an immigration law or two getting here, the point is that they ARE here and aside from prosecution under immigration laws, they shouldn't be subjected a different set of laws than those the rest of us go about our daily business under. Same due process as everybody else.

Filling the Rio Grand with Nile crocodiles I'd be OK with.

[Chiro1989]

Forgive my ignorance, does case law/supreme court decisions support that non-US citizens are entitled to all the rights guaranteed in the US Constitution, not just citizens?

[Justsomedude]

I always felt like only actual US citizens should have the comfort of constitutional rights.

Now that would make for a good amendment...

Tends to fly in the face of "We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men are created equal", and a whole lot else of what followed. Also confronts one with the notion of "A government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take everything you have".

Agree with you that we have a human influx problem. Agree that there needs to be stronger legal measures to discourage it. Suspending those constitutional guarantees that the Founders considered to be basic human rights outside the parameters of any government for specific classes is not the way to do it. The conundrum is that while illegals may have violated an immigration law or two getting here, the point is that they ARE here and aside from prosecution under immigration laws, they shouldn't be subjected a different set of laws than those the rest of us go about our daily business under. Same due process as everybody else.

Filling the Rio Grand with Nile crocodiles I'd be OK with.

I dont mean to treat offenders inhumanely, but they shouldn't be afforded the same opportunities and rights as a person that either went through the trouble to become a legal citizen or natural citizens. At the moment its just another thing to let them "dream about." And someone can call me racist for saying this, but everywhere is showing to be a testament that when a demographic changes, it's never for the better. Get then the fugg out of here.

[FJB]

Andrew Wilkow quote, “You can’t bring there to here without here becoming there.”
Under the current fiasco, that is exactly their agenda.

[Chiro1989]

https://fieldethos.com/another-activist ... americans/

This is a nice little blog to get, a bit of everything