Ruger American gen2

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Wambli Ska wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:06 am .................................. but for the life of me I can’t figure out what I’d hunt with it anywhere near here.
What the hell has that got to do with it............ :D
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Guess I'm in the minority on this one. I have no desire to use one or be near someone using one at the range. I'm not debating their ability to do what the manufactures claim. I have my opinion on them and others have theirs. My opinion is based on my personal experiences around others using them at the range.

The fluted/grooved barrel is a non issue for me. I wouldn't spend the money just to get a rifle specifically for the fluted/grooved barrel, but it wouldn't stop me from buying one either.
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I don’t care about fluting either way. Don’t want to intentionally pay for it. But, I won’t kick it out of bed.
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Brakes would suck if you were at a public range. But not suck as bad as being at a public range.
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CPJ 2.0 wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:06 pm Brakes would suck if you were at a public range. But not suck as bad as being at a public range.
Local public range or the range at the club my dad is a member of are my only realistic options. Either way, if someone on the next bench has a rifle with a brake its going to be a bad time. The same goes for short barreled .223 firearms. Brake or not, the blast from it usually encourages me to pack up and go home.

I think its time for me to bow out of this thread. Its been derailed enough and I think its already been determined to that I probably wont be purchasing one of the Gen 2 rifles anyways. They made some improvements, but overall I would need to change things a fair bit to be what I would prefer and I have other options on hand that will do.
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I personally like the spiral barrel as well.
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shotgunshooter3 wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:17 pm
Gene L wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:53 pm I don't care for the spiral grooved barrel. I wish they'd taken that extra money and put it in a stock. i wouldn't buy one unless I ran up on a killer deal.
I'm in the minority on this forum, but I like the spiral fluting a lot personally. I doubt the cost saved there would yield a better stock.

I like the spiral barrel as well
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Don't see myself with one of the Americans, it doesn't make the little tractor go VROOM

I removed the brakes off most of my rifles that had them
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Looking through my stash of factory ammo I found a bunch of .300 BO. Noticed a Gen 2 in .300 BO at one of my local places. I have not talked myself out of it yet. The stock would need changed. I am not a fan of that style stock at all. I just dont find them comfortable for me.
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Or, you could get a .308 Win and castrate it to a .300 BO with options. 😎
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I have a .308 that hasnt seen a single round by me yet. Im more inclined to grab a .30-06 for .30 cal work. I just look at it as having the factory ammunition, a bunch of brass, and even some bullets that would be better suited in a BO than a .30 cal with any balls. My previous BO became a 5.56 with an old take off Ruger #3 barrel fit up to the R700 action. The previous one just didnt really work well and im not convinced it wasnt the barrel. I suppose if I ever end up with a R700 in .223 I could swap the barrel and try it, but I wont be doing that with the current one I have. I also have a CZ 527 in .223 that could be rebarreled, but finding a prefit for that rifle has been a tough search.
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Orchidman wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:43 pm
Wambli Ska wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:06 am .................................. but for the life of me I can’t figure out what I’d hunt with it anywhere near here.
What the hell has that got to do with it............ :D
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What do I think of Ruger's new rifle?

My most recent centerfire purchase was one of their OLD rifles - a stainless synthetic Hawkeye based on old Mauser and Winchester design features, chambered in a cartridge that goes back a century and a quarter. That should pretty well sum up my opinion for you. :mrgreen:

Seriously, for the modern price-point, semi-disposable, truck-beater rifles that are push feed and held together with roll pins, the Americans have struck me as being pretty much top of the class.

I like the OEM Picatinny base.

I like the round and well placed bolt knob.

I like the three-lug, short lift bolt.

I like that their 3-position safety can lock the bolt closed.

Spiral flutes on the barrel: GAAAAAAAAAY! The rifling is supposed to go on the INSIDE of the barrel guys.

Muzzle brake: I would MUCH rather have the recoil than the concussion most brakes cause. I would quickly pull and replace with a thread-protector, or a can, if I lived somewhere else.

Detachable magazine: A major reason I bought the Hawkeye .30-06 was because it DOESN'T have one, and would hastily convert my .308 Gunsite Scout to a hinged floorplate / internal mag if I could. Have found that I don't like to carry a rifle with the protrusion; don't want to juggle the extra piece of equipment. I'm hunting deer, not fending off a North Korean human wave assault. My state lets me road hunt with an empty chamber and a full mag - if yours insists on an empty mag well, OK, I understand. I also get the attraction for the .223 version as a survival rifle with everything in a convenient, ready-to-go AR-based package (for that concept, I would probably get a CZ-600 Trail instead), but otherwise, gimme a butt cuff with a shell compartment any day.

Stock: One of Bill Ruger's great triumphs was the high, straight comb of the 77 line. It really is a great stock both from an ergonomic and aesthetic perspective. The American II is going Monte Carlo. Never been a fan. Not on a Weatherby; not on this.

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Muzzle brakes are awesome, cans are more awesomer. Living in the USA where I can hunt with a can is the mostest bestest awesomest
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I'll take a flash suppressor every time...
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The stock bothers me, but it does look like there is at least a Boyds option for a replacement. It just adds a bunch of cost to the rifle.
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CPJ 2.0 wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:56 pm Muzzle brakes are awesome, cans are more awesomer. Living in the USA where I can hunt with a can is the mostest bestest awesomest
I like muzzle brakes so much I have a muzzle brake on the end of my can, that in turn attaches over another muzzle brake. Muzzle brake-ception.
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shotgunshooter3 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:35 pm
CPJ 2.0 wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:56 pm Muzzle brakes are awesome, cans are more awesomer. Living in the USA where I can hunt with a can is the mostest bestest awesomest
I like muzzle brakes so much I have a muzzle brake on the end of my can, that in turn attaches over another muzzle brake. Muzzle brake-ception.
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Just bought a scope without a rifle host (yet). Might have to order one of these in .204 Ruger to scratch an itch I've had for a while to drive little .20 cal bullets really really fast...
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Bought one in 308 today. Will review after I shoot tomorrow.
FYI, you can remove the trigger dingus easily and with no ill effect. Fudge your safety.
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:popcorn:
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Well?
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jkp wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 9:23 pmWell?
Well, it shoots 3/4 MOA groups with Hornady factory ammo.
And I accidentally bought an MDT chassis for it.
I’ll do a real report later.
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Looking good with the chassis.
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I've read some reports that the MDT chassis blocks a cleaning rod, even when moving the cheek piece all the way down.

True?
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