Bear attack- defensive gun use

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Bear attack- defensive gun use

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https://www.eastidahonews.com/2024/09/t ... -survival/
Hill dropped his archery bow, pulled a 10mm Springfield from the holster on his hip and shot the bear once in the right side.
He “fumbled around,” pulled out his Taurus 1911 .45 ACP pistol and fired four to five shots at the bear before the gun jammed.
In total, the hunters shot 24 bear bullets at the grizzly to bring it down
Lots of things to pick apart in the story, but my main takeaways are:
- in a bear attack- mag dump on target should be option 1.
-don’t trust a Taurus
-practice your draw.
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…hunt with friends that can shoot and keep their heads under stress
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A big take away for me is the farmer’s up there are a bunch of puh sees.

This poop wouldn’t happen here.


“This bear has always been a problem up there of cattle, and there’s a lot of farmers that … (are) pretty happy with us because we took out the bear that was eating their cattle,” Hill said.”
“The shepherd slaughters more of the flock than the wolf ever will.”
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CPJ 2.0 wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 6:59 pm A big take away for me is the farmer’s up there are a bunch of puh sees.

This poop wouldn’t happen here.


“This bear has always been a problem up there of cattle, and there’s a lot of farmers that … (are) pretty happy with us because we took out the bear that was eating their cattle,” Hill said.”
Yeah, kinda. . .

According to the story, the bear was 20 years old, and while the article doesn't explicitly say, there's a good chance the animal was in that old/sick/injured state that turns a lot of African cats into man eaters. A domestic cow is an easy kill compared to an elk, so that bear was probably shifting to meals he could manage. At any rate, he was living close enough to human habitation to have a reputation.

There are mountain lions where I hunt. I've never been concerned about being actively hunted by one, but I've often considered that by moving to get to my stand in the pre-dawn hours, both the cats and I are sneaking around quietly in the dark, in the same place, trying to find the same thing. Definitely elevates the odds of a chance encounter for me over a mountain biker riding at 9:00am on a well-traveled trail - - -and the cat's almost certainly gonna notice me before I notice it.

Sounds like those boys caught a combination of both factors.
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Bigslug wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 11:53 am
CPJ 2.0 wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 6:59 pm A big take away for me is the farmer’s up there are a bunch of puh sees.

This poop wouldn’t happen here.


“This bear has always been a problem up there of cattle, and there’s a lot of farmers that … (are) pretty happy with us because we took out the bear that was eating their cattle,” Hill said.”
Yeah, kinda. . .

According to the story, the bear was 20 years old, and while the article doesn't explicitly say, there's a good chance the animal was in that old/sick/injured state that turns a lot of African cats into man eaters. A domestic cow is an easy kill compared to an elk, so that bear was probably shifting to meals he could manage. At any rate, he was living close enough to human habitation to have a reputation.

There are mountain lions where I hunt. I've never been concerned about being actively hunted by one, but I've often considered that by moving to get to my stand in the pre-dawn hours, both the cats and I are sneaking around quietly in the dark, in the same place, trying to find the same thing. Definitely elevates the odds of a chance encounter for me over a mountain biker riding at 9:00am on a well-traveled trail - - -and the cat's almost certainly gonna notice me before I notice it.

Sounds like those boys caught a combination of both factors.
There’s no kinda. Doesn’t matter the reason, around here a bear (or whatever) kills cattle it’s an open and closed case of that animal isn’t heard from again.

It’s like black vultures around here. They will pick the eyes out of new born calves. And rip your windshield wipers off and pull the rubber trim from around your windows. But I digress.
There’s some state group that’s paid for billboards offering help with discouraging the vultures. Or removal if required. But there is permits, paperwork, because they are protected ,blah blah blah.

No, there’s really not any need for that. At least that’s what you’ll overhear at the local coffee shop. 🤷‍♂️
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I've heard of something called the "3 S rule"
Not sure I know what it is though ;)
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I hunted the Northern California Cascade mountains where there was an abundance of bear and cougar. I had encounters with both and my son was attacked by a bear while hunting, he dropped her with two shots from a 450 Marlin. Cougar made me shiver and I wore a knife on my shoulder strap just in case. They will see you before you see them. I carried a S&W 44 Mountain Gun and My son, a Glock 10 mm. My son and I were both stalked by cougars. BTW what is this 3 S rule? I never heard of it ;)
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Freezer wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 7:02 pm BTW what is this 3 S rule? I never heard of it ;)
"sheet" shower & shave maybe? :lol:
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Chiro1989 wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 5:55 pm …hunt with friends that can shoot and keep their heads under stress
Or hunt with friends who are slower than you(maybe friends who have a bad knee😂)
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Both of us running would confuse a bear, he would have to stop and flip a coin
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GrapeApe wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 12:05 am
Freezer wrote: Sun Sep 08, 2024 7:02 pm BTW what is this 3 S rule? I never heard of it ;)
"sheet" shower & shave maybe? :lol:
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After seeing a video of a grizzly breaking the back of a moose from swatting it with its giant pawl, I don't know that anything other than a mortar would make me feel like I had enough gun for one.

Those fuggers are super predators, and they can run fast for being so damn big.
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Brown or black, it don't matter, they're bears. One has a worse disposition but they are both strong, have big claws and are unpredictable.
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Freezer wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:39 am Brown or black, it don't matter, they're bears. One has a worse disposition but they are both strong, have big claws and are unpredictable.
And regularly kill and eat mammals that are bigger and faster than me
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I still carry my revolver low where I can raise it out of the holster with a bum shoulder. The only other option would be cross carry. From past experience, single action is not an option.
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Gila wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:17 am
Bear.jpg
that bear isn’t in the woods
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Japhy wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 4:19 am
Gila wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:17 am Bear.jpg
that bear isn’t in the woods
So, how many trees does it take?
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Gila wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 7:47 am
Japhy wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 4:19 am
Gila wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:17 am Bear.jpg
that bear isn’t in the woods
So, how many trees does it take?
Enough to not see the forest for the trees 😁
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Justsomedude wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:19 pm
Gila wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 7:47 am
Japhy wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 4:19 am

that bear isn’t in the woods
So, how many trees does it take?
Enough to not see the forest for the trees 😁
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My experience in the NW is bears always leave a huge pile dead center on the trail.
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