The Gun Used to Shoot the UHC Exec.

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CPJ 2.0 wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:14 pm One thing I know is, about 85% of the comments about the killing that I’ve seen online…..ain’t no one sad about the CEO getting whacked. VERY much “fudge that guy. He deserved it. “
Coincidental?

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https://www.npr.org/2024/12/05/nx-s1-52 ... sia-anthem
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I’m not sure the whacking was THE reason they rolled that back, but I bet it did influence the decision.


“So Bill, you see what happened to the other CEO? We may reconsider our decision. “
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Kinda smacks of "Unintended Consequences". 🙄
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I bill insurance dailey. They all suck. The industry is corrupt in the extreme. However UHC is the worst by far. We stopped accepting UHC over a year ago. Several doctors offices we work with no longer accept UHC. I will not get into the inside baseball stuff. Let's just say I do not condone what the guy did, but I bet I know why he did it.
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My understanding is that UHC has or had the highest percentage of denials
High enough that Congresx investigated. Nothing happened, but still...
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Let’s not forget about the investigation that made the now dead ceo sell off 15 million worth of stock before everyone else knew it…
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UHC handles most Gov contracts. Punishing them is kinda like punishing Boeing. You don't really want to hurt the boys building your Jets and missiles do you. Who is on the board? Who is on payroll as consultants? The "good Ole boys club" of DC prevents any real accountability.
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BTW, I have UHC. They've been... okay. Best was Aetna, but they're not an option. Blue Cross and Blue Shield? I've been told you have to fight for claims on that, too.
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breamfisher wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 5:26 pm BTW, I have UHC. They've been... okay. Best was Aetna, but they're not an option. Blue Cross and Blue Shield? I've been told you have to fight for claims on that, too.
I have had BC/BS forever and they have never denied a claim...and we have had some really monumental claims...
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breamfisher wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:32 pm I doubt it's a Welrod. It looks like's racking the slide. Welrod is bolt-action.
I also doubt it was a Welrod. That's not a semi, it's a bolt action single shot. It looks long like a Welrod, but I don't think it was. It could well be a self-made pistol based on a Welrod.
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breamfisher wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 5:26 pm BTW, I have UHC. They've been... okay. Best was Aetna, but they're not an option. Blue Cross and Blue Shield? I've been told you have to fight for claims on that, too.
We have UMR at work which is a third party administrator for UHC. We've never had a problem yet. They covered all but $1250 of my wife's recent $90,000 surgery. That hits our max out of pocket for the year. Now would be the time for me to have my tri-annual health hit.
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So, shooter dude acquires a pistol and a suppressor. However he gets them. Suppressor is not NFA legal. Because that would require a photo and fingerprints.

He goes out into the woods, or wherever that’s not a public range, to try out his concoction. Probably has a big smile, as per his flirty picture, thinking this was going to be epic… Only to find out his pistol won’t operate with this junk, cobbled suppressor. No Nielsen device. At this point, it’s either make this thing work, or go through the NFA process to get a real suppressor and booster. Knowing what the purpose of the rig was, NFA rules don’t apply.

So, he learns how to shoot it by cycling the slide for every shot. What he didn’t count on was the stress and cold fingers, not cycling the slide property. Which cause an out of battery malfunction or more than one round trying to feed. All he knows to do is keep yanking the slide and trigger. He makes it work and gets the result he wants.

There’s obviously one bystander in the video who runs away. Typically, that’s what you do in a fight or flight situation when fighting is not an option… this is Manhattan. At that early hour, how many people see it happen? By the time calls start going out, dudes riding his government provided electric bike the hell out of there and he’s far away from the first cops on the scene. And he’s wearing a government condoned mask everywhere he goes…

They’ll find him. They no doubt already know who he is. But putting that out there right now isn’t the best idea at the moment. So, it’s a cat and mouse game.
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I couldn't agree more on all counts.

But he's being pursued by people who think he may be a mastermind who did serious research and decided to use a bolt action gun used by farmers to put down livestock.

I wouldn't be surprised if he goes D.B. Cooper.
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PFD45 wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:37 pm I couldn't agree more on all counts.

But he's being pursued by people who think he may be a mastermind who did serious research and decided to use a bolt action gun used by farmers to put down livestock.

I wouldn't be surprised if he goes D.B. Cooper.
Having a good pic of his face, from the hostel, when he was flirting, they'll catch him.
At least that's my prediction/expectation
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Looks like someone's having a conversation.....

https://www.wtae.com/article/unitedheal ... a/63135911
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Still had the gun AND the fake ID from the hostel.
DEFINITELY not a "pro"
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As someone pointed out, if he were a pro, he'd have gotten a functioning suppressor.

He probably watched enough police procedurals to be somewhat effective, but not to avoid all issues.
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My guess is that the fake ID is the only one he has with him until he gets home. He still needs it for the Greyhound. Still having the gun is beyond stupid. If it is him.
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9mm kills the body, but .45 ACP destroys the soul!
-a Fudd, probably
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Of course there's a manifesto 🙄.
If I ever get accused of doing something stupid and they say I left a manifesto, it was 100% a setup. Just making that clear now. Kinda how convenient it was that Lee Harvey Oswald happened to have a photo taken of himself holding a newspaper while holding the Carcano. (Yes I'm going there)
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Is this the part where the black helicopters show up or does that come later?
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According to one “news” source, it was a 3D printed receiver using Glock mags and a 3D printed suppressor… Since they also report he was some kind of computer guru, that would kinda make sense. Also makes sense why his gun didn’t work. But it did what he set out to do, I guess.
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Turns out he used a 3d printed glock 19 clone. Apparently the same file I used to print mine. But mine works fine.
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I'd imagine his issue was suppressor induced.
9mm kills the body, but .45 ACP destroys the soul!
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