When you don’t limit people…

[Wambli Ska]

Decided I’d worked more than enough this week so I went shooting with my daughter and son-in-law today. My daughter was trained right and I let her progress at her own pace through the recoil levels, NEVER telling her something would be “too much for her”.

Once she figured out recoil won’t kill you, she is totally unafraid of it!

This is her smiling as she loads her hubby’s .460. And then touches it off, quite a few times. I love hearing her giggles between shots.

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[Elk Creek]

Nice!!! Good times!

[Diver43]

Great Day. That sure is a handful of gun

[Wambli Ska]

Nice!!! Good times!

Yes sir they are! It was outright pleasant yesterday with a temp of only 90°!

[Wambli Ska]

Great Day. That sure is a handful of gun

Yes to both. And I’m not saying it’s not. Just the if we let folks find their own limitations they will often surprise you in a good way.

[Elk Creek]

Nice!!! Good times!

Yes sir they are! It was outright pleasant yesterday with a temp of only 90°!

And just yesterday I was comfy in a flannel…..

[CPJ 2.0]

Great Day. That sure is a handful of gun

Yes to both. And I’m not saying it’s not. Just the if we let folks find their own limitations they will often surprise you in a good way.

This.


There’s too much “I can’t because grandpa, dad, mom, some dude on Facebook said I can’t. So obviously I can’t.”

“I can’t shoot a pistol at 100 yards. It’s a 10 yard gun only. I can’t shoot farther than 300 with a rifle. I can’t shoot a hard kicking handgun. I can’t hit a pop can at 100 yards with a .22 on the first shot. “

Etc etc.

[Wambli Ska]

Great Day. That sure is a handful of gun

Yes to both. And I’m not saying it’s not. Just the if we let folks find their own limitations they will often surprise you in a good way.

This.


There’s too much “I can’t because grandpa, dad, mom, some dude on Facebook said I can’t. So obviously I can’t.”

“I can’t shoot a pistol at 100 yards. It’s a 10 yard gun only. I can’t shoot farther than 300 with a rifle. I can’t shoot a hard kicking handgun. I can’t hit a pop can at 100 yards with a .22 on the first shot. “

Etc etc.

The man gets it!!!!

[PFD45]

Great Day. That sure is a handful of gun

Yes to both. And I’m not saying it’s not. Just the if we let folks find their own limitations they will often surprise you in a good way.

This.


There’s too much “I can’t because grandpa, dad, mom, some dude on Facebook said I can’t. So obviously I can’t.”

“I can’t shoot a pistol at 100 yards. It’s a 10 yard gun only. I can’t shoot farther than 300 with a rifle. I can’t shoot a hard kicking handgun. I can’t hit a pop can at 100 yards with a .22 on the first shot. “

Etc etc.

Don't forget "Voting is a waste of time, I'll just live with whatever other people decide".

[CPJ 2.0]

Yes to both. And I’m not saying it’s not. Just the if we let folks find their own limitations they will often surprise you in a good way.

This.


There’s too much “I can’t because grandpa, dad, mom, some dude on Facebook said I can’t. So obviously I can’t.”

“I can’t shoot a pistol at 100 yards. It’s a 10 yard gun only. I can’t shoot farther than 300 with a rifle. I can’t shoot a hard kicking handgun. I can’t hit a pop can at 100 yards with a .22 on the first shot. “

Etc etc.

The man gets it!!!!

I tossed out some hedge apples while on a trip with a retired work friend. He’s pushing 70 years old. He wondered what I was doing. “Setting out targets”. Got back to the truck. He grabbed his rifle. I grabbed my 43x with a RDS. He laughed and said “not a chance with a pistol!” Rested on the hood of my truck and I proceeded to make those softball sized targets VERY nervous, finally hitting a couple. The other shots were certainly close enough to be head shots.
I laughed at his silence and look on his face. Handed him the gun and told him “forget what you’ve been told, put the dot on target and squeeze the trigger. “

He did, and landed bullets right around the target. Close enough I wouldn’t have wanted to be standing there. And he had never shot a handgun at that distance, or one with a RDS. The look of shock on his face at what he had done was even better.

He went on about it all day. Couldn’t believe what he had done. Next day he told his father in law, a guy the boomer fudd memes are made after, and of course he called him a liar. “Ain’t no way no 9mm can hit at 100 yards! You’re full of poop!”

[CPJ 2.0]

Yes to both. And I’m not saying it’s not. Just the if we let folks find their own limitations they will often surprise you in a good way.

This.


There’s too much “I can’t because grandpa, dad, mom, some dude on Facebook said I can’t. So obviously I can’t.”

“I can’t shoot a pistol at 100 yards. It’s a 10 yard gun only. I can’t shoot farther than 300 with a rifle. I can’t shoot a hard kicking handgun. I can’t hit a pop can at 100 yards with a .22 on the first shot. “

Etc etc.

Don't forget "Voting is a waste of time, I'll just live with whatever other people decide".

Voting IS a waste of time, if you *honestly* believe you will get anything OTHER than the status quo, stalemate, gridlock, the slow slide to more government regulations and control regardless of what flavor is in the house we pay for. And if pigs fly and you do see a swing in your favor, (either side) just wait. In a few years it will change and we get to play the same game again. Repeat ad infinitum. I voted this year, and remind my public servants on the regular that they need to be keeping promises not just making posts on social media or they will not be receiving my vote in the primary, OR the election, simply because they are the lesser evil.
Then I’ll live with what the people who vote one flavor (either flavor) decide, even if that flavor is feces. My vote, my choice.


Now, let’s not be Inserting politics into a shooting thread.

[PFD45]

Good point, I'll keep it to the 2A area.

I definitely agree that acknowledging that a lot of limits are self imposed is pretty eye opening.

I don't know if it's true but I heard that to train a baby elephant to stay put, the trainer would pound a 4 foot steel spike in the ground and attach a logging chain from it to the elephant's foot. They learned they were restrained.

For a full grown elephant, all you need is a small wooden stake and a tiny little chain because they believed that was their limit.

ETA: I'm glad you voted be cause you're pretty smart.

[Wambli Ska]

Yes please, no politics!

A couple of years ago one of my friends, truly a world class trainer was working with this lady who her husband had made into a nervous wreck. He pulled her away from the group while everyone else was having lunch and just had her dry fire his pistol with RDS on it a bunch of times at maybe 10 yards from a silhouette target. Then when the group came back he put ONE round in the pipe and asked her to do exactly what she had been doing but put the dot on a steel silhouette about 50 yards away. She hit the thing dead center first shot. We worked with her all day long, not teaching her how to shoot, just building up her confidence and keeping her freaking husband away from her. She did GREAT!!!

[Wambli Ska]

BTW her husband had INSISTED she needed a Glock 43 because it was a good “ladies gun. She finished the class running my buddy’s ZEV first and the 43X I had on that day.

[jwv2023]

As CPJ said, preconceived notions are hard to overcome for new shooters. "That gun will knock you on your butt!" It seems that every woman I have introduced to shooting hasn't had that bias about recoil. As a matter of fact, they seem to appreciate the ability to control the power. Most new shooters learn to flinch from the report of the gun, so good ear protection is a must.
Most women have the most pure trigger control.

[Wambli Ska]

The trick is teaching someone the correct mechanics of shooting a handgun BEFORE you introduce heavy NOISE and recoil management which need to be separate skills. I was never thought that way and God only knows it took me years to conquer my bad habits.

I think it was Zee who said you control recoil or it controls you.