My Final Grail Gun finally came home.

[Chiro1989]

Try some Federal Fusions.

[Freezer]

I don't mean to sound like a smart a$$, Did you check for copper fouling from the previous owner? Mine took a lot of cleaning before I got it to shoot well.

[Zee]

Did not seem that bad.

[JunkCollector]

I know you abhor round nose bullets..... but some 100 grain ones may lead you in the right direction.

[Zee]

Try some Federal Fusions.

This is the only light deer load my LGS had. That wasn’t monometal. I’ll try these and see how they group.
80gr Remington PSP

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[Zee]

And, I have 10rnds of 85gr Sierra HPBT-GK left over from my CVA Scout Pistol. They chambers in this rifle as well. I’ll try them too.

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[Zee]

Not to mention, two boxes of these on my shelf to try.

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[Chiro1989]

Try some Federal Fusions.

This is the only light deer load my LGS had. That wasn’t monometal. I’ll try these and see how they group.
80gr Remington PSP
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I am sending you a box soon, I will toss some in.

[Zee]

Try some Federal Fusions.

This is the only light deer load my LGS had. That wasn’t monometal. I’ll try these and see how they group.
80gr Remington PSP
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I am sending you a box soon, I will toss some in.

You do not need. I have 3 options to play with. Much appreciated, though.

[Chiro1989]

But, but, Science!

[JunkCollector]

But, but, Science!

Yeah that........with 100 grain RN bullets....just do it.

[Zee]

But, but, Science!

Send’ em.

[Zee]

But, but, Science!

Yeah that........with 100 grain RN bullets....just do it.

Don’t have any. I don’t think.

[JunkCollector]

I'll look around
With the longer bearing surface they would most likely perform well.

[CPJ 2.0]

I'll look around
With the longer bearing surface they would most likely perform well.

I’d be curious. I’d wager the RN are shorter, (length, not bearing surface) cause they ain’t pointy. Shorter equals better for a slow twist barrel.

[GrapeApe]

I give those Sciroccos about a 75% chance of flying straight. The ones I've seen are rather long for their weight.

Weight, in and of itself, has zero to do with the twist needed to stabilize a bullet. It's all about the length. In some cases, the same bullet weight, with a boattail will be unstable, while a flat base will fly fine.
That's also why solid copper bullets require a faster twist than a cup and core.

I can't imagine the twist a solid aluminum bullet of a "standard weight" would take, considering how long it would be.

The well known greenhill formula doesn't even factor in a bullet's weight per se, only its diameter, length, specific gravity and velocity

[GrapeApe]

Playing with an online Greenhill calculator. @ 3000FPS a 1" long .243" cup and core should be stable from a 1:11" twist. Adding 0.125" drops the called for twist to 1:9"

edited to add: the specific gravity also makes more difference than I thought. changing nothing but the SG from the standard 10.9 for a cup and core bullet to copper's 8.75 changes the required twist to 1:10. Going to Aluminum's SG of 2.7 changes the twist to 1:5"

[Zee]

I give those Sciroccos about a 75% chance of flying straight. The ones I've seen are rather long for their weight.

I have the same doubts. But, three rounds for science won’t hurt.
And if they happen to work, I have two boxes on the shelf. Would like to see their performance on game.

[GrapeApe]

I give those Sciroccos about a 75% chance of flying straight. The ones I've seen are rather long for their weight.

I have the same doubts. But, three rounds for science won’t hurt.
And if they happen to work, I have two boxes on the shelf. Would like to see their performance on game.

Nope it shouldn't hurt a bit

[CPJ 2.0]

I give those Sciroccos about a 75% chance of flying straight. The ones I've seen are rather long for their weight.

I have the same doubts. But, three rounds for science won’t hurt.
And if they happen to work, I have two boxes on the shelf. Would like to see their performance on game.

Nope it shouldn't hurt a bit

Unless you’re a deer or pig. Then it’s gonna hurt.

[Elk Creek]

Old 99’s can still get the job done. My Dad shot this doe today with his 99 with tang sights……

[Wambli Ska]

Nice shot! That one didn’t feel a thing.

[Diver43]

Great shot Dad. What caliber?

[Zee]

Nicely done! Beautiful rifle.

[Elk Creek]

Great shot Dad. What caliber?

Dads 99 is in 300 SAV, oh at 100 yards.