Mailing handgun restrictions found unconstitutional

[Wambli Ska]

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-ba ... -usps/amp/

“A nearly 100-year-old federal ban on mailing handguns through the U.S. Postal Service is unconstitutional and cannot be enforced, according to an opinion released Thursday by the Department of Justice (DOJ).

The 15-page opinion concluded that a 1927 law, which made it illegal to use the Postal Service to mail concealable firearms, such as pistols and revolvers, infringes on the Second Amendment.”

We keep winning

[Diver43]

Step in the right direction. I wouldn't box one up just yet though.

[breamfisher]

Well, it's an opinion, not a ruling, so USPS can still refuse to mail handguns. The DOJ just won't pursue charges.

It's a good step.

[Wambli Ska]

It’s a very good step. I’m sure it will be tested soon enough and will go through the courts. There’s always a plan.

[CPJ 2.0]

Well, it's an opinion, not a ruling, so USPS can still refuse to mail handguns. The DOJ just won't pursue charges.

It's a good step.

I trust Red Flag Blondie as much as I’d trust a fart after eating Taco Bell and gas station sushi.

[Japhy]

I read that piece. It is on the table but likely it ends up like UPS opening shipments and quarantining contents they BELIEVE are firearms or parts of firearms. Here Fedx is the goto but shipping through them requires a trip to the main facility, specific packaging, and an inconvenience at every turn. I just use the local club’s FFL for $25 and save the hour drive. Or if its to a manufacturer that they deal with there is no cost.
USPS ain’t likely going to abide by that rule. We will see

[Wambli Ska]

Well I’ll take it at face value and look forward to a better future because it’s not in my DNA to make gloom predictions. My LGS that I do all my transfers through has ONE can left on their shelves. They said transfers are happening in days, so that damn Bondi and Trump are doing something right.

[CPJ 2.0]

Well I’ll take it at face value and look forward to a better future because it’s not in my DNA to make gloom predictions. My LGS that I do all my transfers through has ONE can left on their shelves. They said transfers are happening in days, so that damn Bondi and Trump are doing something right.

I live in reality, and don’t trust or worship politicians who tell people what they want to hear.

Transfers were happening in days before Trump.

[Wambli Ska]

Well I’ll take it at face value and look forward to a better future because it’s not in my DNA to make gloom predictions. My LGS that I do all my transfers through has ONE can left on their shelves. They said transfers are happening in days, so that damn Bondi and Trump are doing something right.

I live in reality, and don’t trust or worship politicians who tell people what they want to hear.

Transfers were happening in days before Trump.

I live in reality and try not to be a fortune teller.

[breamfisher]

It’s a very good step. I’m sure it will be tested soon enough and will go through the courts. There’s always a plan.

Is this a prediction?

[Justsomedude]

My experience dealing with USPS to ship firearms (as allowed by an ffl) has been about the same as dealing with the a-holes at the BMV.

I'm supposed to keep the box opened so they can take it to the back and make sure it's not loaded, so what's the first thing they do before they even know what my request is? It's to piss and moan about how i need to purchase tape and close the box if I want to ship a package.

Then when I say it's a firearm and I'm shipping it as an ffl, they then tell me that I'm not allowed to do that with a horrified look on their face. That's when I pull out the USPS FFL shipping form with a copy of my FFL (that they already have on file,) just to have to wait for a supervisor to be dug out from their lunch break in the back to tell said employee that they're an idiot and how to ship my package.

Of course, all of this is happening while there's only 1 other employee at one of the 6 open registers and the line of people is out the door with people's eyes burning on the back of my head like I'm the bad guy. UPS is the best bet around here. Fedex is great if you want a stolen package and then gaslit as to who's at fault for it. Only problem is that UPS is expensive and you have to go to their large location that ain't local. I stopped shipping guns because of ---------- (all of this)

[CPJ 2.0]

Yeah I trust ZERO shipper to ship a firearm. Let alone the USPS. Although they would rank above FedEx. But that’s like saying dog turds smell better than cat turds.

[Wambli Ska]

I’ve done dozens of transactions on GB using UPS as a shipper. Zero issue.

[CPJ 2.0]

I’ve done dozens of transactions on GB using UPS as a shipper. Zero issue.

Cool. We are talking about the USPS.

I’ve serviced USPS, UPS, and FedEx locations. Anyone who hasn’t had an issue with any of them is lucky. If anyone believes their employees treat your packages with care, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. If you don’t make your package monkey/toddler/elephant proof before shipping, you’re crazy.

I still remember years ago seeing a rifle shipped from Colorado to Missouri to bass pro. Calebib posted it about years and years ago when he was working for BP. I was servicing the BP and knew the loss prevention guy. He showed me their pics. HOW you break a wooden stock at the wrist when it’s in a gun case defies logic. But, they managed it. And damn it was a pretty stock too.

[Wambli Ska]

And I was referring to Justsomedude UPS comment.

[CPJ 2.0]

Well, it's an opinion, not a ruling, so USPS can still refuse to mail handguns. THISDOJ just won't pursue charges.

It's a good step.

Fixed it for you. When the winds inevitably change in the next or a future election cycle, this means a lot of nothing. Doesn’t mean much now. Doesn’t have any real effect on anything. Since it’s an opinion. Not a law. It’s almost like they are throwing out some bones that require no political capital to rally the troops for the midterms. It’s almost like they know that gun owners got them where they are today, and are afraid we won’t forget they pulled out before finishing the NFA.
“Well, the thing is, voters, we eliminated the tax. So we assumed that the DOJ would be smart enough to know that by eliminating the tax, we wanted the registration gone also. See? We wrote a sternly written letter! We signed it! Could we have removed the democrat appointed parliamentarian and got the registration removed also? Let’s not focus on the past! Let’s focus on the future! One that requires your vote for us!”

[Elk Creek]

My lGS lad a Winchester 88 stock shattered at the wrist through the action with a dent in the action with a chip of yellow paint in the dent. The outer box was perfect, inner box was perfect Samantha plastic hard case inside was perfect, even the retape mod was good…. All this to a 264 win mad with exceptional wood, or at least was… it had to be opened destroyed and repacked…..

[Wambli Ska]

I agree these packages are handled by mouth breathers. But knowing that I pack all my stuff with the assumption that it will be that way. So you could run over my packages with the truck and I’d still have a safe gun.

When I had my custom Mauser shipped to me they took the action out of the stock and wrapped them separately with tons of foam taped to the ends of both the wood and the metal. When I asked the guys at Westley Richard’s why they did that they said they do that with ALL their rifles because hard cases offer no protection if dropped on the end and highly figured wood is easier to split that plain straight grained walnut. He said all high end custom makers/dralers do this.