Hey Sharps guys got a question.

[CPJ 2.0]

Anyone have this sight or similar? One what for launching Volkswagens at long distances?

If so, I have some questions on some measurements. Have an upcoming project

[sakodude]

I have 2 similar, one frome Lee Shaver and the other a Montana vintage arms. Both on C.Sharps 1875 models from the Montana make.

[Elk Creek]

I have dad a Montana Vintage Arms sight on a sharps. I run mainly Lyman’s and Marbles now. MVA sights are worth every penny for repeatability and durability.

[CPJ 2.0]

I have dad a Montana Vintage Arms sight on a sharps. I run mainly Lyman’s and Marbles now. MVA sights are worth every penny for repeatability and durability.

Cool.




But I’m making one.

[Elk Creek]

I have dad a Montana Vintage Arms sight on a sharps. I run mainly Lyman’s and Marbles now. MVA sights are worth every penny for repeatability and durability.

Cool.




But I’m making one.

Well that’s cool!!

[Wambli Ska]

If you're taking the trouble to make one, copy a model with windage adjustment. Just a thought.

[CPJ 2.0]

If you're taking the trouble to make one, copy a model with windage adjustment. Just a thought.

Sure. Take something simple and make it hard! (I didn’t even know they made one with windage adjustment)



Now just don’t let the munchkin know they make them. He will be whining that he needs that feature. I’ll tell him to shut up and hold wind like he does on scopes.

[Elk Creek]

Those old guys figured a few things out…

https://montanavintagearms.com/product/101-mid-range/

[Bigslug]

Buffalo Arms is a website you'll want to visit. As you've discovered, there's windage adjustment to be had.

These are pretty much my Dad's toys - can't give you brands. Obviously height of the stem is going to be important for how far you're trying to throw.

Most of what I've tinkered with is fine thread adjustment - you'll be lining up hash marks; there are no detent click stops.

[Wambli Ska]

The keep him out of this thread

Please know that I do NOT underestimate your skills, in fact I have a HIGH level of respect for what you do, and hell the little spinning top you made for me years ago is still my favorite desk toy. That thing goes on forever. BUT, making one of these is not for the faint of heart and there's a reason the good ones go for a LOT of money. This one is about $3-500, call it a good entry level. The reason is that with these mortars, if you are off by ever a little on the machining shooting at long distances will be the most frustrating thing that you'll ever try. And not having any windage adjustment will drive you to swiftly put all your hard work into the spare parts pile. That being said you COULD put the windage adjustment on the front sight. probably a heck of a lot easier to do, no?

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[CPJ 2.0]

Yes, he can drift the sight.



Make elevation only is cake. The windage adds a ton of pain.

[CPJ 2.0]

So when the sight folds up or down it’s just held in place by friction?

[CPJ 2.0]

I’ll ponder the windage, but since he is going to pick
ONE **** LOAD and NOT FART AROUND with different bullets etc for long range, something that’s made to tap around may be just fine.

[Wambli Ska]

So when the sight folds up or down it’s just held in place by friction?

Detents that guarantee a 90 degree to barrel, so the sight snaps into place when in the correct position. They are usually either adjustable on a generic model mount or set on a model specific mount.

[Wambli Ska]

I’ll ponder the windage, but since he is going to pick
ONE **** LOAD and NOT FART AROUND with different bullets etc for long range, something that’s made to tap around may be just fine.

The issue with that is you'd have to assume that the barrel/front sight, dove tail and the tang on the receiver are correctly indexed to be perfectly horizontally aligned with the rear sight through the whole line of travel (I hope I explained that correctly). Any deviation between the barrel and the receiver or the tang, or the sight base, or the attachment screws or how square the sight frame is, etc... will get you perfectly aligned at exactly ONE yardage setting.

Not trying to dissuade either of you. Just making you aware that all your work (and this I assume is NOT a simple job), might be for naught. You are probably better off actually making a ladder type barrel rear sight. At least it will be easier to align the front and rear and you can still get them a fair bit out there. Of course that assumes the dovetails were also cut perfectly aligned on the barrel.

BTW this is based on hands on experience. I installed the type of sight you show the OP on one of my guns. It swiftly proved to me that it was way prettier than it was functional and it got replaced after one range session.

[CPJ 2.0]

What type of ladder sight?

[Wambli Ska]

Something like this…
https://skinnersights.com/products/skinner-ladder-sight

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[Wambli Ska]

Still a fair amount of work and can’t fine tune elevation precisely like the other type, but it’s much sturdier (not a bad thing considering the intended user) and it won’t disappoint after it’s on.

[Wambli Ska]

The small screw in top of the ladder is just there to keep you from sliding the bar off outright until you want to. The screw on the side holds a spring and a small ball bearing to provide smooth friction and detente type stops on the ladder.

Bonus, because it’s closer to the front sight you can get away with a shorter sight and still gain a lot of elevation adjustment, and it’s MUCH faster to deploy and adjust.

AND the screw on the actual part that slides into the dovetail can be loosened to adjust for windage which beats the hell out of a brass punch and hammer at the range.

[CPJ 2.0]

His rifle isn’t set up for barrel mounted sights, unfortunately. And it may HAVE to be an aperture style sight anyway. He’s got old man eyes.

But we maaaaaay be enabling a scope purchase for him. So this may be just discussion.

[Wambli Ska]

Gotcha. It was fun to play with the idea anyway.

[Bigslug]

His rifle isn’t set up for barrel mounted sights, unfortunately. And it may HAVE to be an aperture style sight anyway. He’s got old man eyes.

But we maaaaaay be enabling a scope purchase for him. So this may be just discussion.

Maybe we can get some aspiring young opthalmologist to pour his post-grad talents into founding the Geriatric Gunsight Research Institute. We could have Shriner's & St. Jude - like fundraising commercials with a bunch of old farts struggling with the "bifocal head tilt" and sitting behind their benchrests tearfully talking about how "I just can't see *BLEEP* anymore".

"For your generous donation of only $19 a month, you can help out an old shooter. As a thank you, you'll receive this genuine used, ammonia-scented cleaning patch as a message that the love they feel for their barrels is a measure of the gratitude they feel for you."

[CPJ 2.0]

His rifle isn’t set up for barrel mounted sights, unfortunately. And it may HAVE to be an aperture style sight anyway. He’s got old man eyes.

But we maaaaaay be enabling a scope purchase for him. So this may be just discussion.

Maybe we can get some aspiring young opthalmologist to pour his post-grad talents into founding the Geriatric Gunsight Research Institute. We could have Shriner's & St. Jude - like fundraising commercials with a bunch of old farts struggling with the "bifocal head tilt" and sitting behind their benchrests tearfully talking about how "I just can't see *BLEEP* anymore".

"For your generous donation of only $19 a month, you can help out an old shooter. As a thank you, you'll receive this genuine used, ammonia-scented cleaning patch as a message that the love they feel for their barrels is a measure of the gratitude they feel for you."

I was pretty surprised about how well I could see the sight and target . Front sight was a crosshair.

[Elk Creek]

His rifle isn’t set up for barrel mounted sights, unfortunately. And it may HAVE to be an aperture style sight anyway. He’s got old man eyes.

But we maaaaaay be enabling a scope purchase for him. So this may be just discussion.

Maybe we can get some aspiring young opthalmologist to pour his post-grad talents into founding the Geriatric Gunsight Research Institute. We could have Shriner's & St. Jude - like fundraising commercials with a bunch of old farts struggling with the "bifocal head tilt" and sitting behind their benchrests tearfully talking about how "I just can't see *BLEEP* anymore".

"For your generous donation of only $19 a month, you can help out an old shooter. As a thank you, you'll receive this genuine used, ammonia-scented cleaning patch as a message that the love they feel for their barrels is a measure of the gratitude they feel for you."

I was pretty surprised about how well I could see the sight and target . Front sight was a crosshair.

A peep sight and globe front sight is a wonderful thing. Another level is an aperture rear (peep) and an aperture front just look through the sights and focus on where you want that bullet to strike. It works. I had that setup on a M1a years back and worked well!

[Wambli Ska]

Maybe we can get some aspiring young opthalmologist to pour his post-grad talents into founding the Geriatric Gunsight Research Institute. We could have Shriner's & St. Jude - like fundraising commercials with a bunch of old farts struggling with the "bifocal head tilt" and sitting behind their benchrests tearfully talking about how "I just can't see *BLEEP* anymore".

"For your generous donation of only $19 a month, you can help out an old shooter. As a thank you, you'll receive this genuine used, ammonia-scented cleaning patch as a message that the love they feel for their barrels is a measure of the gratitude they feel for you."

I was pretty surprised about how well I could see the sight and target . Front sight was a crosshair.

A peep sight and globe front sight is a wonderful thing. Another level is an aperture rear (peep) and an aperture front just look through the sights and focus on where you want that bullet to strike. It works. I had that setup on a M1a years back and worked well!

That setup works... for some (maybe even many) folks and for some applications. Personally with any insert I've tried in a globe sight, any dark background target that does not offer a distinct white/black sharp delineation will make the whole globe and front sight blend and turn into a big black blob...I've tried many globe fronts sights over decades and if hunting is on the menu in any shape it's a hard pass for me so I have just about given up on them in favor of a classic post with a white or brass bead on top. I can see those well on most backgrounds, especially on game (favorite of Africa dangerous game hunters for a reason) and all I do is lay the dot on the target and press the trigger. And those work with anything you put on the back.

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