Suppressor Question

[Jayhawker]

I'm in the process of getting a Yankee Hill Suppressor for my 5.56 ARs...One of the firearms I want to use it on is my 8.5" ARs...Now I discovered that the shortest barrel they recommend is a 10"...What is likely to happen if I use it on the 8.5 barrel?

[shotgunshooter3]

I doubt it will blow up or something. Likely some accelerated wear vs. their recommended minimum, and MAAAYBE a voided warranty.

[Zee]

There are cans that will run on a short barrel. I’d recommend getting one of those.
You will run into over gassing and excessive wear. Or, destroy a less sturdy can.

[Zee]

Just like the muzzle blast from a rifle eats a brake over time, it will do it to your can.

[GrapeApe]

What they said.
At best, accelerated wear, at worst, damage, up to destruction.
I figured out my form 1 223 can needs a 16". Caught it before it got critical, but could tell it "wasn't happy"

[Zee]

Can’t break a Surefire. But, they are expensive. And not the quietist.

Look at Otter Creek. Less expensive. Have varying grades depending on need. And quieter than Surefire with the durability according to length and such.

Honestly, you have .30 cals. I’d recommend getting a .30cal can and running it on the listed rifles down to your .223 rifles. One can. Multiple usage.

[Zee]

If you want to be a one can guy, get one for the largest chambering you want to suppress. Like your .300 WM.
Then, get the adaptors for your lesser chamberings and on size fits all. I’ve run plenty of .223 through a .30cal can and they are ear safe. Maybe not ideal, but ear safe and you bought one can.

[Jayhawker]

Thanks for the input!

[Ernie]

There are cans that will run on a short barrel. I’d recommend getting one of those.
You will run into over gassing and excessive wear. Or, destroy a less sturdy can.

This...
Since I shoot shoot shorty barrels, I have had to pay attention to this.

[Jay]

I agree with what the other guys have said.

Get a 30 cal can. More versatility. Mine is plenty quiet on my 223s, 20 Practical, 6 ARC and 6.5 PRC.

As far as barrel length, yeah, get one rated for your barrel length. When I got my SilencerCo 30 cal can, it said it was rated for down to a 10” barrel. After I got it, the manual said 16”. I specifically got that can for the 10” rating for my AR pistol. I contacted SilencerCo and described my concern. They told me the can was rated for 10”, but since they believed ARs would be a common use for those cans, the engineers believed rate of fire could be an issue, so they changed it to 16”. He sent me an email saying my can would be fine on my 10” AR pistol as long as I kept the rate of fire low, about 10 rounds per minute, and that they would still honor the warranty on it. I saved that email just in case and occasionally run it on my AR pistol. The can gets HOT, fast on that gun. So I keep it to a minimum.

It would be better just to get a can rated for the application and not have to worry about it. If the chosen manufacturer has customer service like I got with mine, a conversion with a tech guy could help settle any questions on specifics before buying.

[Wambli Ska]

As I listen to this conversation I end up with questions of my own so I hope you don't mind me asking a few questions based on these premises. looking to learn so open to any and all info.

I think as more folks (both consumers and manufacturers) get into the game the price of cans will decrease based on competition and the availability from different manufacturers will increase. I also recognize that simple dedicated screw on cans are less expensive than cans with adapters that allow you to use on different guns.

Is the formula or one can vs/multiple dedicate cans changing? In my case I do not expect to go out and suppress all my guns, maybe 4-5 of them are worthwhile and once the can goes on It'll only come off for maintenance or replacement since Zee has mentioned cans and brakes are "consumables". I'm thinking that MAYBE good but less expensive dedicated cans are more cost effective in my situation than more expensive cans and adapters that might be a compromise on noise suppression.

Thoughts? And again not set on one direction vs. the other or looking for contention. Looking to learn and make some subjective decisions in the future. Thanks in advance

[Wambli Ska]

There are cans that will run on a short barrel. I’d recommend getting one of those.
You will run into over gassing and excessive wear. Or, destroy a less sturdy can.

This...
Since I shoot shoot shorty barrels, I have had to pay attention to this.

Hiolly CRAP! I just saw a ghost!!!!

Good to hear from you sir. Hope all is well!

[CPJ 2.0]

As I listen to this conversation I end up with questions of my own so I hope you don't mind me asking a few questions based on these premises. looking to learn so open to any and all info.

I think as more folks (both consumers and manufacturers) get into the game the price of cans will decrease based on competition and the availability from different manufacturers will increase. I also recognize that simple dedicated screw on cans are less expensive than cans with adapters that allow you to use on different guns.

Is the formula or one can vs/multiple dedicate cans changing? In my case I do not expect to go out and suppress all my guns, maybe 4-5 of them are worthwhile and once the can goes on It'll only come off for maintenance or replacement since Zee has mentioned cans and brakes are "consumables". I'm thinking that MAYBE good but less expensive dedicated cans are more cost effective in my situation than more expensive cans and adapters that might be a compromise on noise suppression.

Thoughts? And again not set on one direction vs. the other or looking for contention. Looking to learn and make some subjective decisions in the future. Thanks in advance

The durability of cans depends on your use. You go out and fling a rounds now and then, (normal use) you’ll never wear out a decent (not the most expensive) can. If you’re a high speed low drag operator or play one on TV, Surefire would probably be your choice.

QD mounts add to the cost. Are the cool and fast? Sure. Do you want to be cool and fast when removing them? Or do you not care and value accuracy and precision more? (Direct thread=mo bettah)
And some QD mouths have troubles. The Sure Fire are tactical midget shrub proof. That’s why he likes them.

I want the quietest can possible. Don’t care about back pressure in a bolt gun. So the more spendy flow through cans don’t matter to me. If you’re running one on an AR, that may be a concern.

As to multiple cans, I’ve got one in .308 that obviously does .308 and down. Works good on my .223. It doesn’t work as good as a dedicated .223 can, but it’s hearing safe, especially with the long barrel I use it on.
But, this year I’ll have a couple more. One for .22 LR only, then probably another in .308 that will live on my blackout. I can swap easy enough, but it would be handy to have another if I took an uncouth, dirty, no can having heathen hunting. Wearing ear pro is gay and retarded.

[Ernie]

There are cans that will run on a short barrel. I’d recommend getting one of those.
You will run into over gassing and excessive wear. Or, destroy a less sturdy can.

This...
Since I shoot shoot shorty barrels, I have had to pay attention to this.

Hiolly CRAP! I just saw a ghost!!!!

Good to hear from you sir. Hope all is well!

Yep, I have been away for awhile.
All is well.

[GrapeApe]

If you're basically going to have a dedicated can per barrel, direct thread is the way to go IMO.
If, like me, you're going to be doing a lot of swapping back and forth, I prefer QD. Every swap of a DT is a chance for something to get in, and booger up, the threads, or possibly be an idiot and cross thread it. My 3 DTs (223, 30, 22lr) don't get moved around nearly as much as my QD (30) does.

There seems to be a "standard" developing for endcap thread size on cans (1.375×24 HUB), so going between DT to QD is easier than it used to be

[Wambli Ska]

Good perspectives guys and exactly the info I was looking for. THANKS!

[Wambli Ska]

This...
Since I shoot shoot shorty barrels, I have had to pay attention to this.

Hiolly CRAP! I just saw a ghost!!!!

Good to hear from you sir. Hope all is well!

Yep, I have been away for awhile.
All is well.

Glad to hear that and good to see you around sir. I miss your insights ad contributions.