New tool for culling.....

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New tool for culling.....

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Bought one of these....
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Its an Infiray thermal camera.......Originally got it to attach to my cellphone, but when they arrived ( My hunting buddy D ordered one for himself as well), the mobile wouldnt allow the software to load the camera. Apparently, you have to buy a specific cell phone which is compatible with the camera ( Chinese).
So D sent the cameras back and got a full refund.
6 months later they sent the camera's back with no charge.......Dont ask me why but I never look a gift horse in the mouth.
D bought a burner mob which cost him $400NZ.....I chucked the camera in the corner as a 'will get around to it' project.
Saw it the other day and decided to see if i could get it to work.
After much searching I found some free software which I downloaded to both my mobile and tablet and, hey presto, got it up and running!
A quick hunt in my 'shed of parts' and I found a tripod which the camera fits.
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Bought a 4m long extension cable for $30nz and I get this....
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here are a couple of screenshot pics taken tonight.
This was taken out my back window, the small black roof in the centre is 110m away and the horizon with the houses in the background is 2,5k away....
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Took it out the front of the house and took these next pics...
The man and dog are aprox 60m away....
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The car is 120m away...
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I can also bluetooth/wifi the screen to any other mobile connected to the tablet.
Will set the camera up on elevated positions in areas where we cull, then retire to the vehicle where we can sit in comfort and observe while we wait for target species to show up......once something shows up, we can stalk in with the thermal scopes and deal to the pests.
Might even make a redneck mount to put the camera on the quad/vehicle roof, mount the tablet on the dashboard and drive around in stealth mode lol......Watch this space!

( The free software I downloaded has a banner for ads at the top unfortunately but its a small price to pay for something that I only have $30nz invested in)
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SWEET set-up <3
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GrapeApe wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:56 am SWEET set-up <3
Thanks Paul. The camera's were listed at almost $600usd.... :o
Going to take it hog hunting in the next few days if the weather is kind......Am making a waterproof viewing box for the tablet at the moment out of a clear plastic food container.....I am being stingy with money at the moment :lol:
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That is pretty cool for 600$, you will have to weigh in how easy it is to differentiate what is standing out at 1000M
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Chiro1989 wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:44 am That is pretty cool for 600$, you will have to weigh in how easy it is to differentiate what is standing out at 1000M
Thats what we originally paid....then we sent them back for a refund ........got the refund....and the camera's turned up 6mths later for no charge......god knows why but I aint complaining.... 8-)
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Well the rest of us are not getting the same deal.....
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https://m.vevor.com/thermal-imaging-cam ... 0117537355




And a review. It’s geared more for service work, but…it sees a looooong ways.
And it’s $250-ish.


https://youtu.be/3oltoOSAziU
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That is interesting at that price point. What do you think, poor mans pig finder that can differentiate pig vs. deer?
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Chiro1989 wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 1:41 pm That is interesting at that price point. What do you think, poor mans pig finder that can differentiate pig vs. deer?
Not sure. But I’m very curious.
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I would be willing to pitch in and let the bowling ball breaker field test....
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Chiro1989 wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 2:34 pm I would be willing to pitch in and let the bowling ball breaker field test....
Skip to the 5 minute mark on the YouTube’s I posted to see some outside footage.
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I watched it until he started the review of the internals, no clue about that stuff, looks to be well made if the Youtuber can be believed.
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Chiro1989 wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 4:29 pm I watched it until he started the review of the internals, no clue about that stuff, looks to be well made if the Youtuber can be believed.
I’ve watched a decent amount of his stuff, I trust his word about 85%. He’s German, so he’s picky
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I think it would be handy for short range. But, past maybe 200, distinguishing what the hot spot is might be difficult.
Not bad for stalking or walking around. Scanning a large field…..probably not?
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Zee wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 4:46 pm I think it would be handy for short range. But, past maybe 200, distinguishing what the hot spot is might be difficult.
Not bad for stalking or walking around. Scanning a large field…..probably not?
I concur, but... two things.
My scope is probably not much better in the resolution department. Once you get a long distance you have to rely on visual cues as to how the critter is acting to determine what it is for sure. But, its pretty easy to determine if a target is a deer or coyote. Id wager pigs would be easy to distinguish, even if it was just a white blob due to the way they move about.

And the second point, YOU are 100% COMPLETELY biased. And I understand why. Reasons. Because reasons. #timesharequipment
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One reason I have put together the set up is that when doing long stints of chasing pests, looking through the Guide Nano handheld for long periods give you a black spot in your viewing eye along with making that eye tired.....
Hopefully this setup will change that.
Where we do night culling, we dont have the large variety of animals prevalent in the USA.....no coyotes/wolves/bears/elk etc...The only animals we run across are cattle/horses/sheep and deer and the occasional hog. ( leaving aside little critturs like possums/rabbits etc)
Clear definition of 'hotspots' is done by using the rifle scopes once we locate said 'hotspots'......if no clear ID, we stalk in closer till we get positive ID.
The other consideration is taking into account the first man law.

Men should not touch hands unless passing ammo

At present, if culling with BH we have 1 handheld we share. Normally I am on the Guide hand held and locate an animal, I then pass the hand held to BH so he can locate the position of the animal while I use my rifle scope to ID it. Once he has located its position, he does the same thing. We then make a plan and execute it ( No pun intended) During the 'handover' it is not uncommon ( in the dark) for our hands to touch, resulting in loud screams of revulsion and subsequent trauma.....which dont lend themselves to accurate shot placement....
The field of view on the new setup will allow us both to see hotspots over a large area and then go from there.....and remove the the need for fumbling in the dark ( corollary law following on from the first Man Law is)
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When I first started selling shoes, an old SilverBack taught me, “The only time it’s ok to touch another man’s hand……is when you’re reaching for ammo.”
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CPJ 2.0 wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 5:23 pm
Zee wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 4:46 pm I think it would be handy for short range. But, past maybe 200, distinguishing what the hot spot is might be difficult.
Not bad for stalking or walking around. Scanning a large field…..probably not?
I concur, but... two things.
My scope is probably not much better in the resolution department. Once you get a long distance you have to rely on visual cues as to how the critter is acting to determine what it is for sure. But, its pretty easy to determine if a target is a deer or coyote. Id wager pigs would be easy to distinguish, even if it was just a white blob due to the way they move about.

And the second point, YOU are 100% COMPLETELY biased. And I understand why. Reasons. Because reasons. #timesharequipment
Your scope has a better resolution than the handheld. You’re 340 and the handheld is 240 or something.
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Zee wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 3:57 am
CPJ 2.0 wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 5:23 pm
Zee wrote: Sat Aug 19, 2023 4:46 pm I think it would be handy for short range. But, past maybe 200, distinguishing what the hot spot is might be difficult.
Not bad for stalking or walking around. Scanning a large field…..probably not?
I concur, but... two things.
My scope is probably not much better in the resolution department. Once you get a long distance you have to rely on visual cues as to how the critter is acting to determine what it is for sure. But, its pretty easy to determine if a target is a deer or coyote. Id wager pigs would be easy to distinguish, even if it was just a white blob due to the way they move about.

And the second point, YOU are 100% COMPLETELY biased. And I understand why. Reasons. Because reasons. #timesharequipment
Your scope has a better resolution than the handheld. You’re 340 and the handheld is 240 or something.
Points still stand. 😛
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