New ATF "Rule"

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Japhy
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New ATF "Rule"

Post by Japhy »

key excerpts from the AWR Hawkins Breitbart article:

Biden’s ATF announced a proposed rule Thursday requiring universal background checks, which Congress has rejected for more than 20 years.
The ATF’s rule will redefine language so that there is not simply a category of Americans buying and selling guns from and to one another — as they have done since 1791 — and a category of Federal Firearms Licensed holders (FFLs) selling guns at retail. Rather, every seller will have to prove he is not trying to make a profit, or he will be required to ensure the purchaser undergoes a background check before taking possession of the firearm.

Within minutes of the announcement of the proposed rule, GOA noted in an X post, “There are carve outs for any firearms the ATF deems cool enough to be ‘collectible.’ UNLESS your intent all along was profit or ATF doesn’t think it’s collectible. Then, that’s not allowed.”

Question: if a person sells a gun how will ATF know and how will they know if it was sold for a profit?
Answer: ATF will maintain a registry to enforce the non-legislated "rule"

Question: when is a rule a law
Answer: anytime a federal agency says the rule is a law.
mitdr774
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Re: New ATF "Rule"

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"or he will be required to ensure the purchaser undergoes a background check before taking possession of the firearm."

Well, getting a pistol purchase permit from their local police department should count as a background check, correct? Nothing says you have to use the purchase permit, or that it only counts as a check for a pistol. I would think that would be a way around the rule while still being compliant with the rule. I have not read the proposed rule yet though.
DanielChamberlain
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Re: New ATF "Rule"

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Anyone who lives in a state where they have to get a permit to purchase from the police department already lives in a poop state.
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