Frames and recivers

[Varmintmist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjcic83Jx2g

5th circuit eliminates atf's ability to make it up as they go along.

[CPJ 2.0]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjcic83Jx2g

5th circuit eliminates atf's ability to make it up as they go along.

Same guy better details better audio


https://youtu.be/XvvRNBShg1I?si=s6ie3GOdnwTgY_zx

[PFD45]

The US Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit affirmed in part and vacated in part a lower court ruling that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives final “frame or receiver” rule targeting privately made firearms without serial numbers conflicts with the Gun Control Act.

“ATF, in promulgating its Final Rule, attempted to take on the mantle of Congress to ‘do something’ with respect to gun control. But it is not the province of an executive agency to write laws for our nation. That vital duty, for better or for worse, lies solely with the legislature,” Judge Kurt D. Engelhardt wrote for the court.

I especially like this part:

But it is not the province of an executive agency to write laws for our nation.

[breamfisher]

I'm happy about this ruling and the pistol brace ruling as they affirm and the separation of powers.

However, it doesn't mean that those restrictions are unconstitutional, just that Congress has to make those rules.

[Wambli Ska]

I'm happy about this ruling and the pistol brace ruling as they affirm and the separation of powers.

However, it doesn't mean that those restrictions are unconstitutional, just that Congress has to make those rules.

100% correct. Congress has been hiding behind Agencies making up law long enough. These rulings are setting up precedent for many cases to follow.

BTW judge is another Trump appointee.

[CPJ 2.0]

I'm happy about this ruling and the pistol brace ruling as they affirm and the separation of powers.

However, it doesn't mean that those restrictions are unconstitutional, just that Congress has to make those rules.

BTW judge is another Trump appointee.

At least he picked someone who will overturn illegal executive orders, made by the person who appointed him…or those who come after

[breamfisher]

BTW, I really don't buy into "who" appointed a judge. I place more stock in what party they were a member of.

After John Roberts, judges have been HEAVILY vetted by committees and advocacy groups prior to their name coming across a governor or President's desk.

[Wambli Ska]

I'm happy about this ruling and the pistol brace ruling as they affirm and the separation of powers.

However, it doesn't mean that those restrictions are unconstitutional, just that Congress has to make those rules.

BTW judge is another Trump appointee.

At least he picked someone who will overturn illegal executive orders, made by the person who appointed him…or those who come after

Yes.

[Wambli Ska]

BTW, I really don't buy into "who" appointed a judge. I place more stock in what party they were a member of.

After John Roberts, judges have been HEAVILY vetted by committees and advocacy groups prior to their name coming across a governor or President's desk.

Yep. He’s a Republican and was well vetted.

[breamfisher]

Kinda not my point.

Whoever is picked by whichever party, you will know how they are going to rule probably 95-99% of the time. Whether the Republicans or Democrats are making the decision, it doesn't matter who is POTUS, but it does matter which party they are in.

Part of the reason I didn't care about Biden saying he would pick a certain gender, sex, or race for SCOTUS. Whoever he chose would rule the same way in the majority of the cases, regardless of race or gender or sex.

[Justsomedude]

Imagine if we lived in a country where party lines didn't dictate how the constitution is followed (or not).

[breamfisher]

Oh, that's a beautiful theory, but it ain't gonna happen in the near future.

[Wambli Ska]

Oh, that's a beautiful theory, but it ain't gonna happen in the near future.

Or ever again…

[Wambli Ska]

Kinda not my point.

Whoever is picked by whichever party, you will know how they are going to rule probably 95-99% of the time. Whether the Republicans or Democrats are making the decision, it doesn't matter who is POTUS, but it does matter which party they are in.

Part of the reason I didn't care about Biden saying he would pick a certain gender, sex, or race for SCOTUS. Whoever he chose would rule the same way in the majority of the cases, regardless of race or gender or sex.

And I agree with you and that’s why it’s important to put in place presidents that will appoint conservative justices. Presidents come and go. Judges are like herpes, you got them for life!!!

[Justsomedude]

Oh, that's a beautiful theory, but it ain't gonna happen in the near future.

I know, but a guy can dream. It's amazing what we have allowed our country to turn into. Beaurocrats with total disregard for the laws and true nature of the constitution just writing bills to push through congress that are blatantly unconstitutional with no recourse for them doing so. And agencies and bureaus acting with impunity and people are rotting in cages because of their edicts.

[breamfisher]

A big part of the reason (in my mind) why we're here is that Congress has abdicated its role in writing actual laws (they're called "the Legislative branch" for a reason) and IA instead letting the Executive branch legislate through regulation and fiat, and then rely on the Judiciary to square things up. While Congress can defer some power to the Executive, it's limited.

But, Congress doesn't want to make laws because they're cowards and don't want to lose re-election. Current Congressional approval rating is 17%. But 98% get re-elected. Does that make sense? A lot of it is because people tend to hate everyone in Congress other than "my Rep/Senator." Nevermind your guy is doing the same junk as everyone else, my guy is good.

Another problem, in my mind, is that nobody is campaigning on policy, but what they're against. You don't know what they are going to do because they're too busy telling you what they will fight. I wonder if they actually have a plan? Couple that with Republicans who are more interested in owning the libs than they are in doing anything, and you don't get anything done.

So, with that kind of gridlock, POTUSes of BOTH parties wind up using executive orders to get stuff done because neither side will do jack for the country.

[Bigslug]

“ATF, in promulgating its Final Rule, attempted to take on the mantle of Congress to ‘do something’ with respect to gun control. But it is not the province of an executive agency to write laws for our nation. That vital duty, for better or for worse, lies solely with the legislature,” Judge Kurt D. Engelhardt wrote for the court.

At least this guy is operating on the proper general sense of pessimism.

[CPJ 2.0]

A big part of the reason (in my mind) why we're here is that Congress has abdicated its role in writing actual laws (they're called "the Legislative branch" for a reason) and IA instead letting the Executive branch legislate through regulation and fiat, and then rely on the Judiciary to square things up. While Congress can defer some power to the Executive, it's limited.

But, Congress doesn't want to make laws because they're cowards and don't want to lose re-election. Current Congressional approval rating is 17%. But 98% get re-elected. Does that make sense? A lot of it is because people tend to hate everyone in Congress other than "my Rep/Senator." Nevermind your guy is doing the same junk as everyone else, my guy is good.

Another problem, in my mind, is that nobody is campaigning on policy, but what they're against. You don't know what they are going to do because they're too busy telling you what they will fight. I wonder if they actually have a plan? Couple that with Republicans who are more interested in owning the libs than they are in doing anything, and you don't get anything done.

So, with that kind of gridlock, POTUSes of BOTH parties wind up using executive orders to get stuff done because neither side will do jack for the country.

It’s people (especially older people…sorry older people, it’s true) saying “well at least he/she isn’t a democrat/republican! They may be bad, but the other side is worse!”
The fear of the other side (who’s almost the same as “your” side) winning is a paralyzing fear to some. “BUT WHAT IF THEY WIN!?! NOW MORE THAN EVER WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE VOTE _______ OR THE USA AS WE KNOW IT WILL FALL! “
(Said every election in the last 30 years that I’ve paid attention)

All, let me repeat, All politicians are worthless **** pieces of poop whose main qualification is being able to whore themselves out and talk pretty to win a popularity contest. You say you grandma was a senator? See the above. It doesn’t change.

Nothing will ever change, either. It will be constant he said she said bull poop, with never ending fighting. It’s what keeps the whores whoring.

Both sides have paid for votes with my tax dollars, and have suck-seeded in making sure that never changes.

Gridlock is all we have, with the occasional sprinkling of court rulings that keep Guvco agencies in check. That IS the world we live in. That IS our children and grandchildren’s future. You can piss and moan all you want, but we’ve done it to ourselves.

[Varmintmist]

Which is how it was designed. You will vote for the lesser of two evils because govt is at its heart an evil to freedom and the founders understood that.

IF you decide that Jim Bob is the best guy and you agree with him 100% (if that happens one or both of you are lying BTW) that does NOT meant that I think Jim Bob is any more than a nottheotherparty candidate at best. Thus I am voting the lesser of two evils. I didnt like Trump for quite a few reasons. Gun control was only one. Taking of private land by govt to give to other private citizens was IMHO a lot better reason to not vote for him. However, as the lesser of two evils, and there is NO doubt in my mind that he was the LESSER, I voted for him.

I worked with a guy who was heading up a group for the Constitution party. While I agree that I like their platform a lot better, I told him that they needed to win Dog Catcher before they wasted their time running for Pres. Third parties are dumb asses though

[CPJ 2.0]

The true dumbasses are those who actually believe what the whores say. And think they will “turn the country around”.

[Varmintmist]

Cant turn around anything if you cant get behind the wheel and if you flat refuse open the door, then it will never happen.

[CPJ 2.0]

Cant turn around anything if you cant get behind the wheel and if you flat refuse open the door, then it will never happen.

Show me the whores (politicians ) that turned the country around. I’ll wait.
Wait. I guess trump did drain the swamp.

[Varmintmist]

Show me the third party that has any power at any level to make any damn difference. I'll wait.

You dont become CEO if you arent good enough to be hired into the mail room.

[Wambli Ska]

Show me the third party that has any power at any level to make any damn difference. I'll wait.

Third party that’s how we ended up with the Clintons…. Thanks

[Justsomedude]

There's been plenty of 3rd party candidates that would be better than what we've been electing but there's a generation of people too scared to vote away from the status quo, typical party lines. And we just keep having groundhog day in the political arena with that form of thinking.