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Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 10:04 pm
by Wambli Ska
So the 205’s over enough 110 to make it crunch when I seat them? 😱

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 11:57 pm
by sakodude
Bigslug wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 8:27 pm Sako may have a point. . .

That looks to be the RCBS 200 grain gas check flat point that gets a lot of use in .35 Remington and similar beasts. If it fits the Redhawk cylinder crimped in .357 brass, that's probably worth considering as your long range bullet. If it's close, it might even be worth trimming the brass back a little to make it work.
I use them in my 35 remington, they shoot quite well.

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:00 am
by sakodude
JunkCollector wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 8:07 pm I know where you got those....lol
And I have more
Yes you do :D

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:14 am
by sakodude
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Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:54 am
by Elk Creek
Out of curiosity I mocked up a cartridge to see if a Rossi 92 would cycle that length of 357. No dice. 1.640” is the longest I can cycle through a 92 action, it’s also the minimum I would feel good with in running in a SAA colt with a cylinder length of 1.62 plus the 357 rim for a total of 1.673 total usable cylinder length.

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:51 am
by Wambli Ska
I have to get my caliper and actually measure this right because I think I can get away with that!

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:00 am
by Japhy
Got my curiosity going
Lyman has a 210 gr .357
Here is an interesting article on heavy .357
https://americanhandgunner.com/gear/hea ... 57-magnum/

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:10 am
by sakodude
I've got a bunch of those oregon trails 180's as well. may have to try that 205 in a 38 case to see how it shoots.

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:17 am
by Elk Creek
sakodude wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:10 am I've got a bunch of those oregon trails 180's as well. may have to try that 205 in a 38 case to see how it shoots.
Oh there’s an idea!!!!

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:26 am
by sakodude
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Same bullet in a 38 case.
Actually not the same bullet. That one is a 200gr plain base bullet.

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:28 am
by sakodude
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And just for giggles, a 357 Sig :lol:

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:31 am
by Wambli Ska
I wonder how many water jugs that will penetrate 😁

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:33 am
by Wambli Ska
sakodude wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:28 am IMG_2226.jpeg

And just for giggles, a 357 Sig :lol:
OMG that looks like a a little ICBM 🤣

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:38 am
by sakodude
They will fit my Ruger Blackhawk in the 38 case. Guess I'm going to have to buy some 296 and experiment :o

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:57 am
by Wambli Ska
SCIENCE!!!!! 👍🇺🇸👍

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 4:20 am
by GrapeApe
sakodude wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:38 am They will fit my Ruger Blackhawk in the 38 case. Guess I'm going to have to buy some 296 and experiment :o
Be careful though, IIRC, 38spcl cases aren't made as strong as the magnum cases.

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2025 2:32 pm
by Bigslug
GrapeApe wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 4:20 am
sakodude wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:38 am They will fit my Ruger Blackhawk in the 38 case. Guess I'm going to have to buy some 296 and experiment :o
Be careful though, IIRC, 38spcl cases aren't made as strong as the magnum cases.
Kinda depends. . .Starline says the only difference between their standard and +P .38 brass is the headstamp, and by extension, they also say the .357 is basically a lengthened version of the .38 Special. A lot of their business model operates around making "families" of cartridges that were/are identical in all respects but for overall length, such as .45-70, .45-90, .45-100, etc... The method for that is gonna be obvious - build them all with a case head for the hottest thing it might encounter, and just cut them off where you want the mouth to be.

I've read that some of the ammo factories have used a dedicated case for light wadcutter match loads that has a differing internal profile - presumably thinner walls farther back from the mouth to accommodate the 148 grainers seated fully inside the case. A cannelure around the case is the common indicator.

But more to the point - there is a time and place to load up with brass you scrounged at the range. The loads we are talking about on this thread are NOT it.

Discussing the OTHER extreme for that Redhawk a little - I recently had both my big S&W N-frame .357's out running some of the 170gr/650 fps loads we concocted for practice in my Pop's scandium J-frame. That's some serious fun!

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:30 am
by Justsomedude
I normally don't like bone or antler grips but those make a nice contrast on that stainless finish. It looks good.

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 8:05 am
by Wambli Ska
Justsomedude wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:30 am I normally don't like bone or antler grips but those make a nice contrast on that stainless finish. It looks good.
Thanks!

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 4:43 pm
by CPJ 2.0
Justsomedude wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:30 am I normally don't like bone or antler grips but those make a nice contrast on that stainless finish. It looks good.
Yeah, that.

Re: A neat update on the Ruger Redhawk…

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 10:41 pm
by Wambli Ska
Well thank you!