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Wonder if we will see the gas lines of the 70s.

Zsarvashere wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2026 7:54 pm Up another $.20 since this morning.

And still about $1.50/gal lower than what I was paying just a year ago...

Zsarvashere wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2026 7:57 pm Wonder if we will see the gas lines of the 70s.

No, because we do no depend on Arabian oil anymore and in any case they are in good terms with us and Venezuela will do whatever we ask them to do, So as long as the seas around the ME are open (and the Iranian NAVY benign the bottom pf the ocean helps a whole lot, we are good to go. The markets will react as they always do but supply is AMPLE...

Iranians are celebrating, the free world is applauding, the middle east nations are preparing to attack, then embrace Iran, China and Russia are silent. The only people I hear complaining are the Trumpophobes. The world has a chance to destroy a true terrorist state and MAYBE find some, "some" peace in the middle east. GIVE PEACE A CHANCE. It begins with education. Egypt was the first, Saudi Arabia and others followed. They are our allies, pray for peace. Their democracy will look different than ours but it can be good. It will take time and a tight first but it could work.

It's by far better than a terrorist nation with a nuke and the ability do deliver it.

I was travelling yesterday and gas was up in TN by 20-45 cents. KY was up between 40-60 cents. NC was up the dollar+ previously mentioned. With the NC number being such an outlier my guess is it was maybe the one station making some extra profit.

So here is how oil markets work. The market reacts to ANY bad news and when the panics start there is a run on contracts which drives up the price of crude. You feel that immediately because oil companies raise the value of ALL the oil they have ANYWHERE from the pipelines through the refineries and in storage all the way to the pump. So ALL the oil, even the stuff they bought at a lower price point is now worth more on their books so prices go up IMMEDIATELY!!!

When the prices go down on the other hand you will not see the change until ALLL the oil that was raised in value is out of the system and out of the pumps and the cheaper oil goes through the whole system and reaches you.

So price increases are immediate, price decreases have a lag time...

That's exactly what I alluded to, someone will be making money in this!

Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2026 9:21 pm So here is how oil markets work. . .

Funny thing. . .the lowest I ever paid for gas was the day after Operation Desert Storm started against Saddam Hussein. Gas prices which had been on the increase suddenly plummeted, and I bought premium grade for $0.99 a gallon.

Freezer wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2026 1:38 am That's exactly what I alluded to, someone will be making money in this!

Most oil companies operate like McDonalds. Most people think those guys sell burgers. They do no, you eat their buying mistakes. They trade in beef, OJ, Wheat, Bacon etc futures. When they buy they look at their contracts and if they can sell the stuff at a profit quickly they sell as the first and most profitable option. If they can not sell at a profit then they execute the contracts and make French Fries, buns and burger patties for sale to their franchisees. Oil companies do the same, so when the price of crude goes up they have the option f selling any oil they bought cheaper at a quick profit on the market, that's why ALL the oil gets valued at a higher price point regardless of how much they paid for it because it's what it's going for NOW. But if they can NOT sell it at a big profit then they will spend the money to refine and distribute and pass that cost on to the consumer. Consumer gas is a relatively low profit margin endeavor but you can make FAST millions selling oil contracts at a profit.

The NeoCons got their war, and the Evangelicals got their Holy War.

We shouldn't have ever gotten involved with that mess in 1948, and we shouldn't be involved with it now.

Zorba wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2026 7:42 am The NeoCons got their war, and the Evangelicals got their Holy War.

We shouldn't have ever gotten involved with that mess in 1948, and we shouldn't be involved with it now.

We should wait until they completed their nukes and sent one at us first? It sucks but sometimes it is the better of two evils

Diver43 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2026 5:21 pm

Zorba wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2026 7:42 am The NeoCons got their war, and the Evangelicals got their Holy War.

We shouldn't have ever gotten involved with that mess in 1948, and we shouldn't be involved with it now.

We should wait until they completed their nukes and sent one at us first? It sucks but sometimes it is the better of two evils

Not just on us anyone! It will only encourage other fools like North Korea, who do you think gave them their technology? Send them money, compromise with their demands.... Wilson, Chamberlin, Truman, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Obama, Biden tried that. Iran has killed thousands of Americans and more from other countries, not to mention their proxies. It's about time we grow a backbone and say "ENOUGH"! Putin is feeding them intelligence, not that we haven't done the same for Ukraine. Europe must stand against Russia! Help Ukraine go on the offensive, if it's war let it be felt on both sides!

China gets 40% of it oil from Iran and the straight, Do you think they want regime change? What will this do to their cost for oil? They've been getting it at a discount. They got a break from India also! Could their demand for oil drive the price up? Supply and demand? Was 'Drill baby drill" a prophecy?

I read "Sleep Walkers", how WWI began, I've read many books on WWII. Our country was just as polarized then as it is now. I pray we're not on that road again but if we are.... better we recognize it now. There are a lot more intelligent people than me looking at this, I'm glad I'm an old man but I fear for my grandchildren. I am former military as are many of my friends, I know the cost. I pray it's not wwIII.

What about the new tech, AI?

Cloning has been around a long time and nobody is talking about it, why?

"t's a "Brave New World" in "1984"

Pray...God Help us!

BTW Wilson and Buchanan were fools!

IIRC it was Great Britain and France that divided the Middle East. When they divided it, they did it without regard to the historical boundaries or the tribes in the region, or with forethought depending what you read. By doing so they ensured tribal conflict forever.

Our problem now, not our cause.

I doubt the sand people have nukes. Even if they did, I think its all saber rattling BS. I'd love to imagine our country if we didn't constantly send our money to everyone else.

Unpopular thought exercise here: what if we've been fooled into believing Israel are the good guys and they aren't? Maybe the funny mustache man, painter was actually onto something.

No, there's book that is over 5000 years old that says "They Fudged up" but are still on the right page. I'll follow history. If they are I'm if they' are, I'm ok, oi they're not.....oh well!

Justsomedude wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2026 1:33 am I doubt the sand people have nukes. Even if they did, I think its all saber rattling BS. I'd love to imagine our country if we didn't constantly send our money to everyone else.

Unpopular thought exercise here: what if we've been fooled into believing Israel are the good guys and they aren't? Maybe the funny mustache man, painter was actually onto something.

Yeah, so I gave up on THAT thought in September 11 a few years back. Is take is the ONLY unwavering ally the USA has in that region.

Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2026 2:56 am

Justsomedude wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2026 1:33 am I doubt the sand people have nukes. Even if they did, I think its all saber rattling BS. I'd love to imagine our country if we didn't constantly send our money to everyone else.

Unpopular thought exercise here: what if we've been fooled into believing Israel are the good guys and they aren't? Maybe the funny mustache man, painter was actually onto something.

Yeah, so I gave up on THAT thought in September 11 a few years back. Is take is the ONLY unwavering ally the USA has in that region.

I'm not so sure i believe the official story we were told about 911. The middle eastern folks may have just been scapegoats. I just can't support another war, especially over religious beliefs.

Not much of a war, more like a one sided asskicking.

So, regarding Operation Midnight Hammer: this wasn't true?

Iran’s Nuclear Facilities Have Been Obliterated — and Suggestions Otherwise are Fake News – The White House https://share.google/V7LCP4uR4N5AS4UMt

It didn't set the program back two years or more?

We are constantly fed so much propaganda that it's impossible to wade through what's real and fake, which is probably their intentions.

Gulf of Tonken Incident immediately comes to mind. There's also the released information about how the CIA planned on blowing up a US passenger jet to blame the Cubans so we could invade Cuba and kill Castro. I remember the lie about Russians killing some Ukranian soldiers on an island to garner sympathy from US supporters. Plenty more.

I'm trying to figure out if we kicked Iran's butt or if Iran currently controls the straight of hormuz.

I can't see how both could be true?

President said we've achieved total victory, so we'll keep bombing them to finish the job.

Justsomedude wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2026 12:44 pm We are constantly fed so much propaganda that it's impossible to wade through what's real and fake, which is probably their intentions.

Gulf of Tonken Incident immediately comes to mind. There's also the released information about how the CIA planned on blowing up a US passenger jet to blame the Cubans so we could invade Cuba and kill Castro. I remember the lie about Russians killing some Ukranian soldiers on an island to garner sympathy from US supporters. Plenty more.

I don't do much propaganda or conspiracies. Fortunately because of my work I get to speak to real people all over the world every day and get their perspective. Spoke to a friend in the ME this morning. Irritated about the airport delays and such but as far as the "war", yep, one sided justified ass-kicking...

breamfisher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2026 3:57 pm President said we've achieved total victory, so we'll keep bombing them to finish the job.

Rule number one of self defense. You stop shooting when the OTHER guy decides he's not a threat anymore. Someone really good on the subject told me that a few decades ago.

Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2026 3:59 pm

Justsomedude wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2026 12:44 pm We are constantly fed so much propaganda that it's impossible to wade through what's real and fake, which is probably their intentions.

Gulf of Tonken Incident immediately comes to mind. There's also the released information about how the CIA planned on blowing up a US passenger jet to blame the Cubans so we could invade Cuba and kill Castro. I remember the lie about Russians killing some Ukranian soldiers on an island to garner sympathy from US supporters. Plenty more.

I don't do much propaganda or conspiracies. Fortunately because of my work I get to speak to real people all over the world every day and get their perspective. Spoke to a friend in the ME this morning. Irritated about the airport delays and such but as far as the "war", yep, one sided justified ass-kicking...

I gave up conspiracies a long time ago, but I acknowledge how much we have been lied to and gaslit by our government to the extent that now I dont believe what politicians or news tells me. I know we are over there bombing, but as to why is what I question.