Charlie Kirk shot

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mitdr774 wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:44 pm
Zee wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:14 pm
Where can I get this .36 Caliber rifle?
Its called a .360 Buckhammer, but its really just a .358"........
If it was a model 98 mauser it's not inconceivable it could have been re chambered to a 9.3x62 /.366 dia
So glad they caught this SOB, they need to bring back public executions for this guy.
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Crap…. I forgot about that one. 🤬
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I’m assuming it was a 30.06, and reporters are too stupid to comprehend the designation. “Oh, it just be a typo. It’s a .36. “
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Makes sense, someone probabkyvcalled it a 30ought6 and that sounded like 36 to the clueless…
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AI's fault zeros have nil value so it just read the 3 and the 6.
I've seen/heard it on a few videos about cartridges.
And in at least one news briefing, one of the speakers identified it as a mauser 98 30-06, 30/06, or 30.06, however you prefer it
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sakodude wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 11:27 pm
So glad they caught this SOB, they need to bring back public executions for this guy.
Won't be public, but at least Utah DOES have the death penalty
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RIP Charlie Kirk. Condolences to his wife, children, family and friends.
I have watched quite a few of his videos over the past few years. I admired and respected him and his ability to reach out to young people especially.

I believe this will be a watershed moment in American history.
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GrapeApe wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2025 2:54 am
sakodude wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 11:27 pm
So glad they caught this SOB, they need to bring back public executions for this guy.
Won't be public, but at least Utah DOES have the death penalty
And death by firing squad!
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Elk Creek wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2025 3:39 am

And death by firing squad!
I'll gladly donate some ammo for it
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If he gets the firing squad, I honestly hope that someone with "bad aim" gets a neck shot.
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sakodude wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 11:27 pm
mitdr774 wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:44 pm
Zee wrote: Fri Sep 12, 2025 9:14 pm
Where can I get this .36 Caliber rifle?
Its called a .360 Buckhammer, but its really just a .358"........
If it was a model 98 mauser it's not inconceivable it could have been re chambered to a 9.3x62 /.366 dia
So glad they caught this SOB, they need to bring back public executions for this guy.
Very true, but everything I have seen says it was a .30-06 except the NBC write up that said Mauser 9830 odd 6, .36 caliber rifle. Not sure what a Mauser 9830 is or what an odd 6 cartridge looks like.

Glad he is in custody and hopefully justice is served. I half expect some BS mental excuse to get him a less than fitting sentence.
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It is interesting to see my kids, my cousins kids, and my friends kids reaction to this. I am aware of Charlie Kirk, have seen some video clips and decided early on he was preaching to the choir with me and did not watch him essentially, the kids are genuinely upset about this murder, it is the most vocal I have seen them be about an event.
Praying for the family.
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It’s highly obscure rifle cartridge combo that instantly identifies the author of the reticle as an uninformed hack.
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Chiro1989 wrote: Sat Sep 13, 2025 4:52 pm It is interesting to see my kids, my cousins kids, and my friends kids reaction to this. I am aware of Charlie Kirk, have seen some video clips and decided early on he was preaching to the choir with me and did not watch him essentially, the kids are genuinely upset about this murder, it is the most vocal I have seen them be about an event.
Praying for the family.
Same. My 15yo son is pretty bothered by it. I wish he hadn't watched it and I wish that it wasn't so damn public, being played by everyone and everywhere. I think it's his first time really realizing how cruel this world is and also maybe gave him a bit of existential fear.
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I didn't watch the videos, don't want to see another man killed. 150 yards isn't a hard shot and there was so much that didn't make sense to me. An 06 in the neck? There should have been collateral damage from a pass through, the damage should have been massive negating any thoughts of getting him to a hospital.

I was at my nephews house this weekend doing some home repairs and really didn't want to get into this subject but he convinced me to watch a video.It made a good case. The shot was center mass off to the high left. Kirk was wearing a titanium plate that fragmented the bullet and it was a fragment that penetrated his neck. A class discussion of the dynamics of the shot. I don't want to watch it again but skip through and you'll see what I'm referring to.

https://youtu.be/y6zPjo5Vogc
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I don't see how the rounds were engraved as reported. Or even written on, for that matter. Anyone have any clues?
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There's a bunch of questions. For one, they're saying that he disassembled the rifle after he took the shot and reassembled it in the woods. Why the hell would you leave it if you were able to make it to the woods? Plus the said it was found with the spent round chambered and 3 in the mag well. The rounds would have popped out of the magwell when he removed the barreled action from the stock and I highly doubt he would have taken the time to reload it, after extracting and ejecting the fired round. None of this makes sense.
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Justsomedude wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 4:17 am There's a bunch of questions. For one, they're saying that he disassembled the rifle after he took the shot and reassembled it in the woods. Why the hell would you leave it if you were able to make it to the woods? Plus the said it was found with the spent round chambered and 3 in the mag well. The rounds would have popped out of the magwell when he removed the barreled action from the stock and I highly doubt he would have taken the time to reload it, after extracting and ejecting the fired round. None of this makes sense.
When you look at the video it is relatively clear to see the whole rifle wrapped in the towel as he gets off the roof.
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Wambli Ska wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:00 am
Justsomedude wrote: Tue Sep 16, 2025 4:17 am There's a bunch of questions. For one, they're saying that he disassembled the rifle after he took the shot and reassembled it in the woods. Why the hell would you leave it if you were able to make it to the woods? Plus the said it was found with the spent round chambered and 3 in the mag well. The rounds would have popped out of the magwell when he removed the barreled action from the stock and I highly doubt he would have taken the time to reload it, after extracting and ejecting the fired round. None of this makes sense.
When you look at the video it is relatively clear to see the whole rifle wrapped in the towel as he gets off the roof.
That's not my take. The fbi is saying he disassembled it on the roof before jumping down with it in a towel.
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My faith in the FBI in general after reading a bunch pf their reports is slightly tarnished at best. What is the chance that he took the time to disassemble the rifle and then took the time to reassemble it to lay it in the woods. I looked at the video a bunch of times and it is absolutely NOT clear enough to be inconclusive but I find it way more likely that he disassembled the gun to carry it in, then used the screwdriver to assemble it on the roof and then booked out of there with the assembled rifle mostly hidden wrapped in a black towel. Folks are ridiculously bad at noticing anything in plain sight and I can guarantee you that I can move swiftly through a crowd with a barrel sticking out of a black towel and no one would even notice.
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I'm just going by what the FBI is saying, which makes absolutely no sense. And who knows, maybe they have more or better video of what we have but I trust the FBI no more than I did when they were being run by Biden and crew.
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I just watched the video again because it was being replayed by a news channel and I wanted to be clear on what I believe I saw. It is clear to me, even in the poop video, that the shooter put down something long/solid loosely wrapped in a black cloth on to the edge of the roof, lowered himself partially off the roof, grabbed the object again, then dropped down to the ground while still holding the object which could easily be the rifle wrapped in a towel as he himself said, then just walked off.

You are the second person that has told me the FBI reported that he took the gun apart before he left the roof top. I'm curious so I looked again and I can't find an actual FBI source that said or reported the rifle disassembly on a quick google search. But in any case, they caught the shooter and hopefully it will be a swift trial and sentencing so I never have to hear his name or see his face again.
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Interesting meme that drove this point home for me...
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I heard it was a Mauser, but don't know if that's true. A 200 yard shot on a bullseye is a pot shot but on a person's neck is pretty good shooting. Clearly, the shooter had some experience. There's a lot of info on Robinson being put out and I don't think it's wise as it could pollute the jury pool, but it's being done by prosecutors so maybe it's OK> I thought it would be a federal case but that doesn't seem to be true at this point.
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Gene L wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:35 pm I heard it was a Mauser, but don't know if that's true. A 200 yard shot on a bullseye is a pot shot but on a person's neck is pretty good shooting. Clearly, the shooter had some experience. There's a lot of info on Robinson being put out and I don't think it's wise as it could pollute the jury pool, but it's being done by prosecutors so maybe it's OK> I thought it would be a federal case but that doesn't seem to be true at this point.
He didn’t aim for the neck. The fact it hit there was happenstance.
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