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Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:06 am .................................. but for the life of me I can’t figure out what I’d hunt with it anywhere near here.

What the hell has that got to do with it............

Guess I'm in the minority on this one. I have no desire to use one or be near someone using one at the range. I'm not debating their ability to do what the manufactures claim. I have my opinion on them and others have theirs. My opinion is based on my personal experiences around others using them at the range.

The fluted/grooved barrel is a non issue for me. I wouldn't spend the money just to get a rifle specifically for the fluted/grooved barrel, but it wouldn't stop me from buying one either.

I don’t care about fluting either way. Don’t want to intentionally pay for it. But, I won’t kick it out of bed.

Brakes would suck if you were at a public range. But not suck as bad as being at a public range.

CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:06 pm Brakes would suck if you were at a public range. But not suck as bad as being at a public range.

Local public range or the range at the club my dad is a member of are my only realistic options. Either way, if someone on the next bench has a rifle with a brake its going to be a bad time. The same goes for short barreled .223 firearms. Brake or not, the blast from it usually encourages me to pack up and go home.

I think its time for me to bow out of this thread. Its been derailed enough and I think its already been determined to that I probably wont be purchasing one of the Gen 2 rifles anyways. They made some improvements, but overall I would need to change things a fair bit to be what I would prefer and I have other options on hand that will do.

I personally like the spiral barrel as well.

shotgunshooter3 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:17 pm

Gene L wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:53 pm I don't care for the spiral grooved barrel. I wish they'd taken that extra money and put it in a stock. i wouldn't buy one unless I ran up on a killer deal.

I'm in the minority on this forum, but I like the spiral fluting a lot personally. I doubt the cost saved there would yield a better stock.

I like the spiral barrel as well

Don't see myself with one of the Americans, it doesn't make the little tractor go VROOM

I removed the brakes off most of my rifles that had them

Looking through my stash of factory ammo I found a bunch of .300 BO. Noticed a Gen 2 in .300 BO at one of my local places. I have not talked myself out of it yet. The stock would need changed. I am not a fan of that style stock at all. I just dont find them comfortable for me.

Or, you could get a .308 Win and castrate it to a .300 BO with options.

I have a .308 that hasnt seen a single round by me yet. Im more inclined to grab a .30-06 for .30 cal work. I just look at it as having the factory ammunition, a bunch of brass, and even some bullets that would be better suited in a BO than a .30 cal with any balls. My previous BO became a 5.56 with an old take off Ruger #3 barrel fit up to the R700 action. The previous one just didnt really work well and im not convinced it wasnt the barrel. I suppose if I ever end up with a R700 in .223 I could swap the barrel and try it, but I wont be doing that with the current one I have. I also have a CZ 527 in .223 that could be rebarreled, but finding a prefit for that rifle has been a tough search.

Orchidman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2024 8:43 pm

Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:06 am .................................. but for the life of me I can’t figure out what I’d hunt with it anywhere near here.

What the hell has that got to do with it............

Dear Lord, you come all the way from the future just to give me crap

What do I think of Ruger's new rifle?

My most recent centerfire purchase was one of their OLD rifles - a stainless synthetic Hawkeye based on old Mauser and Winchester design features, chambered in a cartridge that goes back a century and a quarter. That should pretty well sum up my opinion for you.

Seriously, for the modern price-point, semi-disposable, truck-beater rifles that are push feed and held together with roll pins, the Americans have struck me as being pretty much top of the class.

I like the OEM Picatinny base.

I like the round and well placed bolt knob.

I like the three-lug, short lift bolt.

I like that their 3-position safety can lock the bolt closed.

Spiral flutes on the barrel: GAAAAAAAAAY! The rifling is supposed to go on the INSIDE of the barrel guys.

Muzzle brake: I would MUCH rather have the recoil than the concussion most brakes cause. I would quickly pull and replace with a thread-protector, or a can, if I lived somewhere else.

Detachable magazine: A major reason I bought the Hawkeye .30-06 was because it DOESN'T have one, and would hastily convert my .308 Gunsite Scout to a hinged floorplate / internal mag if I could. Have found that I don't like to carry a rifle with the protrusion; don't want to juggle the extra piece of equipment. I'm hunting deer, not fending off a North Korean human wave assault. My state lets me road hunt with an empty chamber and a full mag - if yours insists on an empty mag well, OK, I understand. I also get the attraction for the .223 version as a survival rifle with everything in a convenient, ready-to-go AR-based package (for that concept, I would probably get a CZ-600 Trail instead), but otherwise, gimme a butt cuff with a shell compartment any day.

Stock: One of Bill Ruger's great triumphs was the high, straight comb of the 77 line. It really is a great stock both from an ergonomic and aesthetic perspective. The American II is going Monte Carlo. Never been a fan. Not on a Weatherby; not on this.

Short version: It's a car I'd drive as a rental, but would probably not buy as my primary.

Muzzle brakes are awesome, cans are more awesomer. Living in the USA where I can hunt with a can is the mostest bestest awesomest

I'll take a flash suppressor every time...

The stock bothers me, but it does look like there is at least a Boyds option for a replacement. It just adds a bunch of cost to the rifle.

CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:56 pm Muzzle brakes are awesome, cans are more awesomer. Living in the USA where I can hunt with a can is the mostest bestest awesomest

I like muzzle brakes so much I have a muzzle brake on the end of my can, that in turn attaches over another muzzle brake. Muzzle brake-ception.

shotgunshooter3 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:35 pm

CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:56 pm Muzzle brakes are awesome, cans are more awesomer. Living in the USA where I can hunt with a can is the mostest bestest awesomest

I like muzzle brakes so much I have a muzzle brake on the end of my can, that in turn attaches over another muzzle brake. Muzzle brake-ception.

That's some kinda weird human centipede action going on!

Just bought a scope without a rifle host (yet). Might have to order one of these in .204 Ruger to scratch an itch I've had for a while to drive little .20 cal bullets really really fast...

Bought one in 308 today. Will review after I shoot tomorrow.
FYI, you can remove the trigger dingus easily and with no ill effect. Fudge your safety.

Well?

jkp wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2024 9:23 pmWell?

Well, it shoots 3/4 MOA groups with Hornady factory ammo.
And I accidentally bought an MDT chassis for it.
I’ll do a real report later.

Looking good with the chassis.

I've read some reports that the MDT chassis blocks a cleaning rod, even when moving the cheek piece all the way down.

True?