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Freezer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 10:13 am

Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 5:46 am Just putting things in perspective. If we’re shedding a light on one let’s do it fairly on all. Democrats have been blatantly buying votes for decades.

At the end of the day none of it means anything to me. I don’t need the 5k, or free schooling, or government supermarkets. I’ve worked my ass off so I don’t have to vote for handouts for myself and my family and can look at results objectively.

Bravo!

I was a broke butt for a long time and I still don't have much but, what I have, I earned. There were no hand outs. We paid for my wife's education and because she'a a teacher it's hard to say it paid off financially but, she's happy. Obama Care has all but destroyed our medical care system. I saw criminals getting out of jail, geting better medical care than I could have dreamed of. I can't imagine "Medicare for All".

As for reporations, if they want to go on that road they should start with the Native Americans, Hawiians and so many others. Talk about buying a vote.

I pray America doesn't go down the socialist road. It is a path we would never recover from. Thankfully still have a three part system and that should stem the tide. We as a nation can survive an idiot president for four years until the left come to their senses.

As for your Catholic rant, get over it. The bishops are citizens of this counrty and have the right to an opinion just the same as anybody else or group. I disagree with the far left, they disagree with me! That's a good thing. The bishop's case is illogical and has many holes in it but, they are following their most basic principle, preservation of life. That includes the unborn, sick, terminally ill and criminal. I can't say I agree with everything the Catholic Church professes but they do preach the "Right of Consicense". Oh, and by the way, the bishops wrote the breif, not the pope.

As for the historical rant, do you hold the German people accountable for Hitler today? The Japanese for Pearl Harbor? It was the southern states that promoted slavery, should they pay reporations? My great grandfather and and great uncle fought for the north. Every man, country, religion and systen makes it's mistakes. You can't judge history through today's filters. Another modern day mistake! Move on.

Freezer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 11:50 am I hit the wrong button.

Freezer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 11:50 am I'm not good with the hand out, I'd rather the money be used for the national debt. Like others have said, "They're all doing it".

5k would sure help with my wife's and my hearing aids which aren't covered in Medicare or any other program.

So how is the Catholic Church different from the Democratic Party or DSA?

Freezer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 11:50 am

So how is the Catholic Church different from the Democratic Party or DSA?

CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 10:53 am Don’t think there’s any light that needs shed on dems buying votes.
But looking at this *objectively, saying “we will give you 5 grand if we win” is BLATANTLY buying votes.

Same coin, (just not a penny, which I am HAPPY to see discontinued) different side.

Zsarvashere wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 7:50 pm Always makes me laugh when you criticize Trump or any repub and people go but Bided Biden dems Pelosi Obama Clinton but Biden. We know. They are not the ones in power now. They are not the ones fing it up now. Repubs were elected to be different not less terrible. I will never understand how people can live in the false binary world and continue to think if you criticize a repub that you somehow like a dem or visa versa. But I am in the minority. 95% live in that false binary. Laugh, cry, who knows what to do.

I'll let you all 95%ers in on something. There is not always a good guy and a bad guy. There is most often just bad guys. I know mind not blown right. It just went right over your head as your inner monolog keeps repeating but Biden.

Diver43 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 9:19 pm

Zsarvashere wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 7:50 pm Always makes me laugh when you criticize Trump or any repub and people go but Bided Biden dems Pelosi Obama Clinton but Biden. We know. They are not the ones in power now. They are not the ones fing it up now. Repubs were elected to be different not less terrible. I will never understand how people can live in the false binary world and continue to think if you criticize a repub that you somehow like a dem or visa versa. But I am in the minority. 95% live in that false binary. Laugh, cry, who knows what to do.

I'll let you all 95%ers in on something. There is not always a good guy and a bad guy. There is most often just bad guys. I know mind not blown right. It just went right over your head as your inner monolog keeps repeating but Biden.

Ya know America is Great. We have choices. Know why there is so much conflict now? Because not so many years ago, nobody told you which way to think. You chose and loved with your choice. Nobody hated each other for thinking differently, people didn't riot because the other guy won. Honestly, vote for whomever you wish, it is none of my business as with me, not yours.
Today cancel culture will villify and make stuff up against each other. We all need to as CPJ would say, STFU and get back to being good people. If your or my guy loses, try harder next time.

Zsarvashere wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 10:31 pm My dad always said if you are losing an argument you want to change the subject. He's a pretty smart guy too.

Zsarvashere wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 10:31 pm My dad always said if you are losing an argument you want to change the subject. He's a pretty smart guy too.

Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 3:02 am Ahhhh psychology, one of my favorite hobbies. Thoroughly enjoyed the courses I took in college!

Now Google “projection”. Signing Freud had that one pegged
Anyway 2A and SCOTUS

Freezer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 10:13 am I can't say I agree with everything the Catholic Church professes but they do preach the "Right of Conscience"...

Zsarvashere wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 10:31 pm My dad always said if you are losing an argument you want to change the subject. He's a pretty smart guy too.

CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:42 pm So far….guidance from the EIEIO has been negligible. Only real news is they won’t go after dealers who have transferred cans on a 4473 instead of a form four. Which was a question dealers had, because the only official way to get NFA items off their books was by the tax stamp.(form4)
How they are supposed to get them off the books….no one knows yet.
At several local dealers I can walk in, fill out the 4473 and walk out with a can. One specifically says you must be a GOA member, and if you’re not they have a computer set up where you can join right then and there. Which everyone should anyway. It’s 25$. I’ll gladly help pay them back for what they have spent litigating this case.



Been tempted a couple of times, but I have other “needs” at the moment.