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I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:29 pm
by Rugerfan
Walked in my LGS. The owner hands me a rifle: Hopkins & Allen Junior Model 922. I’m assuming it’s 22lr. The barrel isn’t engraved with the caliber. I just shot 5 22lr through it to function test it. Shot better than I anticipated. It does need a butt plate. It’s got a hair trigger. $175 otd. This is probably the closest I’ll ever come to a Stevens Crackshot or Favorite.
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Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:31 pm
by Rugerfan
The long rifles chambered just fine and ejected with now problems.

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:41 pm
by Elk Creek
Well you are a lucky duck! I would have snapped that up in a blink too! Those are neat rifles!

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:43 pm
by Elk Creek
Those Hopkins 22 are great! They have a sliding breach rather than the coming action breech as the Stevens. C sharp arms did a remake of them a few years ago. It being a take down you could have other barrels made for it too!!!

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:52 pm
by Diver43
Another great find

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2025 9:01 pm
by Rugerfan
Elk Creek wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:43 pm Those Hopkins 22 are great! They have a sliding breach rather than the coming action breech as the Stevens. C sharp arms did a remake of them a few years ago. It being a take down you could have other barrels made for it too!!!
I didn’t know it was a take down. Haven’t had time to do any research yet. Is that what the “swivel “ stud underneath is for?

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2025 9:04 pm
by Elk Creek
Rugerfan wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 9:01 pm
Elk Creek wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:43 pm Those Hopkins 22 are great! They have a sliding breach rather than the coming action breech as the Stevens. C sharp arms did a remake of them a few years ago. It being a take down you could have other barrels made for it too!!!
I didn’t know it was a take down. Haven’t had time to do any research yet. Is that what the “swivel “ stud underneath is for?
Yup!!

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2025 10:04 pm
by JunkCollector
That looks like fun

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2025 10:41 pm
by sakodude
Nice find!!

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:42 am
by Wambli Ska
:inmybestjedivoice:
“You don’t want that ugly little rifle, send it to your buddy Wambli…” 🤣

Oh well it was worth a try. Here’s a link to your buttplate. They make reproductions with molds made out of originals for $20. I’ve bought a bunch for old guns over the years.

https://gungrip.com/hopkins-and-allen-r ... lates.aspx

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:44 am
by Wambli Ska
And yes it’s a takedown. That’s what the little ring in the bottom is for. Unscrew it and the barrel and forend come off.

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 3:06 am
by Rugerfan
Wambli Ska wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:42 am :inmybestjedivoice:
“You don’t want that ugly little rifle, send it to your buddy Wambli…” 🤣

Oh well it was worth a try. Here’s a link to your buttplate. They make reproductions with molds made out of originals for $20. I’ve bought a bunch for old guns over the years.

https://gungrip.com/hopkins-and-allen-r ... lates.aspx
Thanks for the information Wambli!

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 3:23 am
by Rugerfan
I appreciate all of the responses. I found 2 short videos but neither showed how to break it down. I was surprised at how well it shot. Not much rifling in the barrel. Idk if that’s normal, if it’s leaded bad, or about shot out. Regardless, it shoots pretty good. It ejects the cases very good. I can’t wait to shoot it from a rest and see what it is capable of.

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 3:53 am
by GrapeApe
Nice score

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 4:24 am
by Elk Creek
Rugerfan wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 3:23 am I appreciate all of the responses. I found 2 short videos but neither showed how to break it down. I was surprised at how well it shot. Not much rifling in the barrel. Idk if that’s normal, if it’s leaded bad, or about shot out. Regardless, it shoots pretty good. It ejects the cases very good. I can’t wait to shoot it from a rest and see what it is capable of.
A good cleaning would help. Open the action, unscrew the screw, take the barrel out. Easy peasy

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 6:21 am
by Justsomedude
I absolutely love those guns. I fell in love with a Stevens Crackshot a customer owned that was chambered in 25 Stevens. I made him a handful of reloadable cases for it using 22 blanks and then made a centerfire breech and 32acp barrel for it so he could switch it up. It was stupid accurate. I wish the 25 Stevens was easy to aquire. Supposedly it was pretty accurate and popular back in its day. Ammo hasn't been made since 1949 iirc.

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 6:24 am
by Justsomedude
Oh, if you're interested I could reline that barrel for pretty cheap. You'd get a fresh chamber too. And that ring on the bottom of the reciever, behind the forearm is how you remove the barrel. Just loosen it and pull the barrel out.

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:59 pm
by Wambli Ska
Rugerfan wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 3:06 am
Wambli Ska wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:42 am :inmybestjedivoice:
“You don’t want that ugly little rifle, send it to your buddy Wambli…” 🤣

Oh well it was worth a try. Here’s a link to your buttplate. They make reproductions with molds made out of originals for $20. I’ve bought a bunch for old guns over the years.

https://gungrip.com/hopkins-and-allen-r ... lates.aspx
Thanks for the information Wambli!
Glad to help 👍

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:32 pm
by Big Al1
Great find, neat little rifle. Never seen an H&A! Sick to standard velocity in that old timer!

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:36 pm
by Rugerfan
Justsomedude wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 6:24 am Oh, if you're interested I could reline that barrel for pretty cheap. You'd get a fresh chamber too. And that ring on the bottom of the reciever, behind the forearm is how you remove the barrel. Just loosen it and pull the barrel out.
I thought about relining when I looked down the barrel. But judging by the way it shot I don’t think it needs it now. I’ll probably clean the barrel some and see what happens.

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:37 pm
by Rugerfan
Big Al1 wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:32 pm Great find, neat little rifle. Never seen an H&A! Sick to standard velocity in that old timer!
I did. Although the barrel is very thick. I was surprised it how thick it is.

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:39 pm
by Rugerfan
Elk Creek wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 4:24 am
Rugerfan wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 3:23 am I appreciate all of the responses. I found 2 short videos but neither showed how to break it down. I was surprised at how well it shot. Not much rifling in the barrel. Idk if that’s normal, if it’s leaded bad, or about shot out. Regardless, it shoots pretty good. It ejects the cases very good. I can’t wait to shoot it from a rest and see what it is capable of.
A good cleaning would help. Open the action, unscrew the screw, take the barrel out. Easy peasy
Yeah, I may do that next week when I’m on Spring Break. If I get through my other to-do list.

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2025 11:51 pm
by bullsi1911
Justsomedude wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 6:21 am I absolutely love those guns. I fell in love with a Stevens Crackshot a customer owned that was chambered in 25 Stevens. I made him a handful of reloadable cases for it using 22 blanks and then made a centerfire breech and 32acp barrel for it so he could switch it up. It was stupid accurate. I wish the 25 Stevens was easy to aquire. Supposedly it was pretty accurate and popular back in its day. Ammo hasn't been made since 1949 iirc.
Friend in HS has a crackshot in 22LR, and I have always wanted one ever since. It was insanely fun to shoot, and stupid quiet with CB caps and Aguila SSS rounds.

Nice score! I’m jealous

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:16 am
by Wambli Ska
Rugerfan wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:37 pm
Big Al1 wrote: Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:32 pm Great find, neat little rifle. Never seen an H&A! Sick to standard velocity in that old timer!
I did. Although the barrel is very thick. I was surprised it how thick it is.
That’s because back in the day you could get multiple barrels for the same frame including shotgun barrels.

Re: I couldn’t help it

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 4:31 am
by Rugerfan
Makes sense