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I had a regular call me up yesterday wanting to know if he could bring in a gun for some work. We ended up BS'ing and I was telling him about my 32 rimfire and he said he has something I might like.

He ends up coming in to bring a Pedersoli Rolling Block in 45-70 to have one of those loooong, brass recoiling scopes installed and said he had a gift for me so he goes out to his truck and brings in a 1869 Veterlli and told me that I could have it

It's complete, minus the cleaning rod and in really good condition, along with the bore. It's chambered in 41 Swiss which is also a rimfire and has a really slick elevator cartridge feeding system. So being in another obsolete cartridge, I have to make my own which brings up a question that I think I already know the answer to.

Apparently people use 8mm Lebel brass to form into the Swiss brass and then they convert the rifle to centerfire (which is incredibly easy to do.) I already purchased dies and still need to order the brass but it is available at least. BUT, do I convert the rifle to centerfire or convert my brass to rimfire? I know which one is easiest to deal with but I'm wondering if I'm overlooking something here? The only upside to keeping it rimfire would be a conversation piece and to add to the weird factor. Oh, and another thing I found interesting is that this black powder cartridge is known for over 1350fps with a 334 grain lead bullet from this case and supposedly very accurate from these rifles.

Oh I know where 2 boxes of Remington ammo is! The 8mm label anyway. Very cool!!!!

I'd want to convert if to CF, personally.
Cool rifle, either way

Elk Creek wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 2:33 am Oh I know where 2 boxes of Remington ammo is! The 8mm label anyway. Very cool!!!!

Tell me more!

Justsomedude wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 2:45 am

Elk Creek wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 2:33 am Oh I know where 2 boxes of Remington ammo is! The 8mm label anyway. Very cool!!!!

Tell me more!

Little shop here in town, I’ll pm.

Super cool! I’d definitely convert it to centerfire.

I like it.

I see the love child of a Borchardt, Mauser and a Winchester.

GrapeApe wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 2:43 am I'd want to convert if to CF, personally.
Cool rifle, either way

Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 3:10 am Super cool! I’d definitely convert it to centerfire.

I was pretty much 90% decided on that already but wasn't sure if I was not considering all angles. It's not like it can't be converted back to rimfire in the future.

Justsomedude wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 3:56 am

GrapeApe wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 2:43 am I'd want to convert if to CF, personally.
Cool rifle, either way

Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 3:10 am Super cool! I’d definitely convert it to centerfire.

I was pretty much 90% decided on that already but wasn't sure if I was not considering all angles. It's not like it can't be converted back to rimfire in the future.

DING!DING!DING! We have a winner!

Converting the action to CF would be a one time nightmare. Converting brass would be a nightmare for each case.

I was poking around finding more about that rifle and one poster said to look for a spare firing pin under the butt plate, ya never know!

I’d go all crazy and do something silly like sleeve the barrel and make it a 45-75

What that rifle needs is a tactical stock and a red dot scope.

Gene L wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 10:10 pm What that rifle needs is a tactical stock and a red dot scope.

Chris would dig it

I haven't been able to mess with the rifle today but I'll check under the butt plate for a spare pin. That'll be slick if there's one there.

Justsomedude wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:57 pm

Gene L wrote: ↑Wed Apr 30, 2025 10:10 pm What that rifle needs is a tactical stock and a red dot scope.

Chris would dig it

100%.

Convert it to 9mm.

I wonder if there is a chassis you could modify for that rifle, and a nice scope!

I have a bunch of weird guns now, and no range membership to fire them at. Ugh...

Second thought, it might be a good thing because I'm the type of person that'll shoot myself into bankruptcy.

Those things looks so frigging cool.

Congrats!

Justsomedude wrote: ↑Thu May 01, 2025 12:58 am I have a bunch of weird guns now, and no range membership to fire them at. Ugh...

Second thought, it might be a good thing because I'm the type of person that'll shoot myself into bankruptcy.

Well you can’t take it with you…. No trailers on a hearse……

Shoot ‘em’ up!!

Justsomedude wrote: ↑Thu May 01, 2025 12:58 am I have a bunch of weird guns now, and no range membership to fire them at. Ugh...

Second thought, it might be a good thing because I'm the type of person that'll shoot myself into bankruptcy.

Load up your vehicle and come visit me. We can be on BLM land shooting in abut 5 minutes and you can make the weird guns go bang until your fingers bleed and/or the silly grin is so frozen on your face that it needs to be surgically removed

Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Thu May 01, 2025 1:52 am

Justsomedude wrote: ↑Thu May 01, 2025 12:58 am I have a bunch of weird guns now, and no range membership to fire them at. Ugh...

Second thought, it might be a good thing because I'm the type of person that'll shoot myself into bankruptcy.

Load up your vehicle and come visit me. We can be on BLM land shooting in abut 5 minutes and you can make the weird guns go bang until your fingers bleed and/or the silly grin is so frozen on your face that it needs to be surgically removed

You've become such a nomad that I can't recall which part of the US you're in now
Arizona now?

He's a LOT further from you than I am

As much stuff as we've talked about you sending down for testing...
It might be cheaper to come down and help me test it, than paying shipping costs.

Justsomedude wrote: ↑Thu May 01, 2025 2:24 am

Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Thu May 01, 2025 1:52 am

Justsomedude wrote: ↑Thu May 01, 2025 12:58 am I have a bunch of weird guns now, and no range membership to fire them at. Ugh...

Second thought, it might be a good thing because I'm the type of person that'll shoot myself into bankruptcy.

Load up your vehicle and come visit me. We can be on BLM land shooting in abut 5 minutes and you can make the weird guns go bang until your fingers bleed and/or the silly grin is so frozen on your face that it needs to be surgically removed

You've become such a nomad that I can't recall which part of the US you're in now
Arizona now?

Oh that was soooooooo last year, or was it the year before? Doesn't matter, Nevada, and this is home for good!
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So far...

GrapeApe wrote: ↑Thu May 01, 2025 2:26 am He's a LOT further from you than I am

As much stuff as we've talked about you sending down for testing...
It might be cheaper to come down and help me test it, than paying shipping costs.

That's definitely on the bucket list, especially when the pinfire is finished, which I did get started on. Maybe this Summer if all goes well!
I'd definitely like to get out west for the first time in my life though so visiting Enzo, smoking a good cigar and maybe hitting some trails in his Jeep is also on the list one of these days.

Looking forward to it