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Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 12:22 am
by DanielChamberlain
Because of the plethora of after market levers and parts to turn them fully automatic, Glock is discontinuing all models until they can be redezigned ("Z" was deliberate...)
They will still manufacture some smaller compact models.
Re: Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 12:47 am
by CPJ 2.0
It’s the new Glock Vaginer.
Sad the 13% **** it up for the rest of us.
Re: Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 3:18 am
by Japhy
the CA legislation was the issue.
An excerpt:
AB 1127 forbids licensed firearms dealers in California from selling, offering for sale, exchanging, giving, transferring or delivering “any semiautomatic machine gun-convertible pistol” beginning July 1, 2026. The bill defines that class of pistol as a semi-auto with a “cruciform trigger bar” that can be “readily converted” into a machine gun by installing a pistol converter.
Re: Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:59 am
by CPJ 2.0
It was the lawsuits.
Re: Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 11:46 am
by DanielChamberlain
Re: Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 3:22 pm
by jkp
Hope all of mine don't wear out.
Re: Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 3:43 pm
by breamfisher
Stock Gen 5 Glock 17s will be sold for $1,000 at a gun show near you.
"Pre-ban, no longer available. I know what I've got!"
Re: Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:07 pm
by Diver43
Imagine the piece of crap they will be selling.
Re: Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:41 pm
by Japhy
I am not a Glock mechanic, but from the very broad description in the CA legislation I am curious to know what other manufacturers will be impacted? Everyone has a Glick clone these days.
On the optimistic side I have doubts the CA law stands for long.
Re: Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:41 pm
by Japhy
Oh my typos! Glock!
Re: Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 5:15 pm
by CPJ 2.0
Japhy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:41 pm
I am not a Glock mechanic, but from the very broad description in the CA legislation I am curious to know what other manufacturers will be impacted? Everyone has a Glick clone these days.
On the optimistic side I have doubts the CA law stands for long.
Every maker that has a clone will be impacted. It’s not a ban on a brand, but a design.
As far as the law not standing? Puff puff pass! You’re higher than giraffe balls if you think it will get reversed. They already ban guns with certain features, and require makers to submit to their “safety” standards.
Re: Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:35 am
by Bigslug
CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 22, 2025 5:15 pm
Japhy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:41 pm
I am not a Glock mechanic, but from the very broad description in the CA legislation I am curious to know what other manufacturers will be impacted? Everyone has a Glick clone these days.
On the optimistic side I have doubts the CA law stands for long.
Every maker that has a clone will be impacted. It’s not a ban on a brand, but a design.
As far as the law not standing? Puff puff pass! You’re higher than giraffe balls if you think it will get reversed. They already ban guns with certain features, and require makers to submit to their “safety” standards.
Well, here's the deal. . .
Almost every semi auto out there would rather operate as a full auto. It's just the addition of assorted disconnecting features that keep them from being so. Those features can be, and have been, worked around by widgets ranging from manufactured drop in parts to cleverly bent coat hangers.
It's been illegal to start casually manufacturing machineguns, from scratch or conversion, for either about 40 year or 90 years depending on which "scripture" you want to quote.
So when you get right down to it, just how supportable is a law that bans a class of firearm because it is possible to perform an already illegal act upon it - especially when any semi-auto can likely be similarly altered with its own specific set of illicit shenanigans?
While I'm not one for the irrational fear of full auto anyway, if I have to be in a gunfight against someone, I WANT them to have one of these things set for full auto. They're squirrelly and inaccurate as all get out.
Yet another case of the dumber they get politically, the easier it is for us.
Re: Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 2:00 am
by CPJ 2.0
Bigslug wrote: ↑Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:35 am
CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 22, 2025 5:15 pm
Japhy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:41 pm
I am not a Glock mechanic, but from the very broad description in the CA legislation I am curious to know what other manufacturers will be impacted? Everyone has a Glick clone these days.
On the optimistic side I have doubts the CA law stands for long.
Every maker that has a clone will be impacted. It’s not a ban on a brand, but a design.
As far as the law not standing? Puff puff pass! You’re higher than giraffe balls if you think it will get reversed. They already ban guns with certain features, and require makers to submit to their “safety” standards.
Well, here's the deal. . .
Almost every semi auto out there would rather operate as a full auto. It's just the addition of assorted disconnecting features that keep them from being so. Those features can be, and have been, worked around by widgets ranging from manufactured drop in parts to cleverly bent coat hangers.
It's been illegal to start casually manufacturing machineguns, from scratch or conversion, for either about 40 year or 90 years depending on which "scripture" you want to quote.
So when you get right down to it, just how supportable is a law that bans a class of firearm because it is possible to perform an already illegal act upon it - especially when any semi-auto can likely be similarly altered with its own specific set of illicit shenanigans?
While I'm not one for the irrational fear of full auto anyway, if I have to be in a gunfight against someone, I WANT them to have one of these things set for full auto. They're squirrelly and inaccurate as all get out.
Yet another case of the dumber they get politically, the easier it is for us.
It’s California. The people that ban a gun on looks. It doesn’t need to make sense.
Re: Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 2:35 am
by Diver43
Bigslug wrote: ↑Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:35 am
CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 22, 2025 5:15 pm
Japhy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:41 pm
I am not a Glock mechanic, but from the very broad description in the CA legislation I am curious to know what other manufacturers will be impacted? Everyone has a Glick clone these days.
On the optimistic side I have doubts the CA law stands for long.
Every maker that has a clone will be impacted. It’s not a ban on a brand, but a design.
As far as the law not standing? Puff puff pass! You’re higher than giraffe balls if you think it will get reversed. They already ban guns with certain features, and require makers to submit to their “safety” standards.
Well, here's the deal. . .
Almost every semi auto out there would rather operate as a full auto. It's just the addition of assorted disconnecting features that keep them from being so. Those features can be, and have been, worked around by widgets ranging from manufactured drop in parts to cleverly bent coat hangers.
It's been illegal to start casually manufacturing machineguns, from scratch or conversion, for either about 40 year or 90 years depending on which "scripture" you want to quote.
So when you get right down to it, just how supportable is a law that bans a class of firearm because it is possible to perform an already illegal act upon it - especially when any semi-auto can likely be similarly altered with its own specific set of illicit shenanigans?
While I'm not one for the irrational fear of full auto anyway, if I have to be in a gunfight against someone, I WANT them to have one of these things set for full auto. They're squirrelly and inaccurate as all get out.
Yet another case of the dumber they get politically, the easier it is for us.
And there it is. First Glock then it will include every semi auto.
Re: Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2025 1:43 am
by Japhy
Will Glock even be able to repair their legacy machine gun convertible products?
Will shipping for repair via a FFL be considered a transfer?
The same question applies to all Glock clones.
Re: Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2025 1:53 am
by Elk Creek
Ya, ze Glock ze schtop…….
Re: Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:20 pm
by shotgunshooter3
I'm not 100% surprised to be honest. One, I'm not confident Glock has the capital to battle multiple large lawsuits at the same time. Two, with them being able to witness Sig's massive fumble on the P320 (admittedly a completely different issue), it sounds like they're more interesting in just proactively changing the design instead of deal with the fallout. Time will tell.
Additionally, being a European company, they likely have a different attitude about complying w/ laws vs. a US based company.
So far Gunbroker auctions aren't reflecting much of a panic buy, but that may change. I did pick up a used Glock 45 MOS as a backup to my match gun, just in case. Though, pragmatically, if I actually have the time and inclination to go very deep into the USPSA black hole, I could see myself switching to CZ, Walther, or Beretta.
I'm also tempted to grab one of these LE Surplus G17's I see online and see if I can actually succeed at flipping a gun for once.
Time will tell. I don't see Glock fading away.
Re: Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:43 pm
by Zsarvashere
This is the problem with tort in the US. These cases should be dismissed during pretrial motions. Glock is not at fault because a criminal chooses to use their product criminally. One of the very few issue I wholeheartedly agreed with W Bush on.
Re: Glock Discontinuing All Duty Sized Guns
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2025 9:36 pm
by Japhy
Went to the local range today. There are a couple rows of various new Glocks in the display case no price increases. I didn’t check the used inventory.