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Posted: **Tue Dec 23, 2025 11:03 am**

Charter Arms has a new 5 shot revolver. The Coyote.

It's in .380 ACP.

That... that's an idea....

https://www.shootingillustrated.com/con ... -revolver/

Posted: **Tue Dec 23, 2025 1:02 pm**

I can only imagine they're going after the foreign markets where you can't own anything in a "military" caliber, and the small-ish autoloaders that would be 9mm here would be .380 there. On the U.S. market, however, those same 9mm guns seem to be causing the .380 to largely rot on the vine.

Two rounds of the stuff was perfectly adequate to start WW1. It ought to do.

Posted: **Tue Dec 23, 2025 2:07 pm**

Yeah and the Mossad uses .22s for assassinations.

If you're using a 9mm revolver with moon clip, what's to stop you from using .380? They're the same sized critter...

Posted: **Tue Dec 23, 2025 2:36 pm**

I have a couple .380acp's. A Kel Tec P3AT and more recently a SW BG 2.0. Both pocket guns. I am not Military anymore, not LEO, just a guy with a few years behind him. If there was riots in the street or a war going on, but for running to Publix or to then mailbox i feel very comfortable with either. Out and about or traveling i have the P365 or another 9mm or .40sw

Posted: **Tue Dec 23, 2025 3:34 pm**

Oh, I believe .380 has its place. But to me, carrying a .48 Special/9mm-sized .380 in the states is like carrying a Glock 42... unless you can't handle the recoil, why not use the more capable cartridge in an identical-sized platform.

I do like that they ported the revolver.

Posted: **Tue Dec 23, 2025 4:29 pm**

Thanks, but no

Posted: **Tue Dec 23, 2025 6:02 pm**

Seems like a miss on the moon clips. But CA has questionable at best QC so…..::pass

Posted: **Tue Dec 23, 2025 7:55 pm**

I have a friend that has one of the charter revolvers in .40s&w. But he has standardized on all his handguns in either .22LR or .40s&w.

That’s the only reason I could see for having a .380 revolver… and I LIKE weird guns.

Posted: **Tue Dec 23, 2025 8:12 pm**

bullsi1911 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 7:55 pm I have a friend that has one of the charter revolvers in .40s&w. But he has standardized on all his handguns in either .22LR or .40s&w.

That’s the only reason I could see for having a .380 revolver… and I LIKE weird guns.

I’d take one of these first! And maybe hack the barrel down to 2”
https://www.cimarron-firearms.com/cimar ... acp-6.html

Posted: **Tue Dec 23, 2025 8:57 pm**

Obviously not in 380, but it worked for David Berkowitz

Posted: **Tue Dec 23, 2025 11:25 pm**

Justsomedude wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 8:57 pm Obviously not in 380, but it worked for David Berkowitz

The charter arms of the 80’s were better guns!

Posted: **Wed Dec 24, 2025 12:52 am**

Elk Creek wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 8:12 pm

I’d take one of these first! And maybe hack the barrel down to 2”
https://www.cimarron-firearms.com/cimar ... acp-6.html

From your link...

...this 21st century fistful of pistol is chambered for the feisty .380ACP cartridge!...

Fiesty?

Posted: **Wed Dec 24, 2025 1:14 am**

GrapeApe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 24, 2025 12:52 am
Elk Creek wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 8:12 pm

I’d take one of these first! And maybe hack the barrel down to 2”
https://www.cimarron-firearms.com/cimar ... acp-6.html
From your link...
...this 21st century fistful of pistol is chambered for the feisty .380ACP cartridge!...
Fiesty?

Chihuahuas are feisty, but still bite!

Posted: **Wed Dec 24, 2025 1:30 am**

touche

Posted: **Wed Dec 24, 2025 2:24 am**

Elk Creek wrote: ↑Wed Dec 24, 2025 1:14 am
GrapeApe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 24, 2025 12:52 am
Elk Creek wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 8:12 pm

I’d take one of these first! And maybe hack the barrel down to 2”
https://www.cimarron-firearms.com/cimar ... acp-6.html
From your link...
...this 21st century fistful of pistol is chambered for the feisty .380ACP cartridge!...
Fiesty?
Chihuahuas are feisty, but still bite!

Worst byte I ever saw in my life was done by a freaking Chihuahua that bit my buddy on the top of his foot and sent him to the ER for 20+ stitches. Little poop literally ripped his skin open. Freaking blood EVERYWHERE, looked like a murder scene!

Posted: **Wed Dec 24, 2025 2:27 am**

Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Wed Dec 24, 2025 2:24 am
Elk Creek wrote: ↑Wed Dec 24, 2025 1:14 am
GrapeApe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 24, 2025 12:52 am

From your link...

Fiesty?
Chihuahuas are feisty, but still bite!
Worst byte I ever saw in my life was done by a freaking Chihuahua that bit my buddy on the top of his foot and sent him to the ER for 20+ stitches. Little poop literally ripped his skin open. Freaking blood EVERYWHERE, looked like a murder scene!

See! It’s about target and veracity!

Posted: **Wed Dec 24, 2025 6:18 am**

How’s that old saying go…. Not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog.

Posted: **Wed Dec 24, 2025 1:22 pm**

breamfisher wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 2:07 pm Yeah and the Mossad uses .22s for assassinations.

If you're using a 9mm revolver with moon clip, what's to stop you from using .380? They're the same sized critter...

For the .380, you would NEED the moon clip, where a dedicated chamber would headspace the cartridge on the case mouth. Your ejection would then depend on either clean chambers and non-sticky brass or having a pokey tool. . .or just manufacturing a loading gate style revolver with a fixed ejector rod and a similar spec chamber.

As to the chihuahuas. . .my father's theory is that every dog gets issued the same amount of evil. In the smaller dogs, that evil is much more concentrated. And really. . .you got the soul of a timber wolf in the body of a chihuahua - you SHOULD be pissed off at the world.

Posted: **Wed Dec 24, 2025 2:52 pm**

GrapeApe wrote: ↑Wed Dec 24, 2025 12:52 am
Elk Creek wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 8:12 pm

I’d take one of these first! And maybe hack the barrel down to 2”
https://www.cimarron-firearms.com/cimar ... acp-6.html
From your link...
...this 21st century fistful of pistol is chambered for the feisty .380ACP cartridge!...
Fiesty?

Saw that also. 100% written by a chick or a flamboyant gay dude.

Posted: **Wed Dec 24, 2025 2:54 pm**

Posted: **Wed Dec 24, 2025 6:46 pm**

Bigslug wrote: ↑Wed Dec 24, 2025 1:22 pm
breamfisher wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 2:07 pm Yeah and the Mossad uses .22s for assassinations.

If you're using a 9mm revolver with moon clip, what's to stop you from using .380? They're the same sized critter...
For the .380, you would NEED the moon clip, where a dedicated chamber would headspace the cartridge on the case mouth. Your ejection would then depend on either clean chambers and non-sticky brass or having a pokey tool. . .or just manufacturing a loading gate style revolver with a fixed ejector rod and a similar spec chamber.

As to the chihuahuas. . .my father's theory is that every dog gets issued the same amount of evil. In the smaller dogs, that evil is much more concentrated. And really. . .you got the soul of a timber wolf in the body of a chihuahua - you SHOULD be pissed off at the world.

I've seen these before. They work really well, although I'm sure it drives price up.

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Posted: **Wed Dec 24, 2025 10:42 pm**

Elk Creek wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 6:02 pm Seems like a miss on the moon clips. But CA has questionable at best QC so…..::pass

Wife has (3) different CA revolvers - loves them, has had zero problems with them, blah, blah, blah.

Posted: **Thu Dec 25, 2025 1:21 pm**

Justsomedude wrote: ↑Wed Dec 24, 2025 6:46 pm
Bigslug wrote: ↑Wed Dec 24, 2025 1:22 pm
breamfisher wrote: ↑Tue Dec 23, 2025 2:07 pm Yeah and the Mossad uses .22s for assassinations.

If you're using a 9mm revolver with moon clip, what's to stop you from using .380? They're the same sized critter...
For the .380, you would NEED the moon clip, where a dedicated chamber would headspace the cartridge on the case mouth. Your ejection would then depend on either clean chambers and non-sticky brass or having a pokey tool. . .or just manufacturing a loading gate style revolver with a fixed ejector rod and a similar spec chamber.

As to the chihuahuas. . .my father's theory is that every dog gets issued the same amount of evil. In the smaller dogs, that evil is much more concentrated. And really. . .you got the soul of a timber wolf in the body of a chihuahua - you SHOULD be pissed off at the world.
I've seen these before. They work really well, although I'm sure it drives price up.
images.jpeg

Yeah, my buddy’s .40s&w one and my brother’s .45ACP Charters have that moonclip-less system, and it does seem to work pretty well

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