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SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2026 8:47 pm
by jkp
Interesting, but I don't know that it's $2k interesting. Like most of the recent SA offerings it seems to be significantly over priced for what it is. After the new wears off there might be some deals to be had. I wish PSA would get on a project like this.
https://www.guns.com/news/2026/04/19/ne ... 308-pistol
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2026 8:57 pm
by Zee
I’ve been looking at that. Price will likely diminish my interest as have have a few .308 Specialty Pistols already. But, I’m interested. Need to see what the twist rate is first.
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2026 8:59 pm
by Zee
Barrel is shorter than I’d like.
Already have a 10.5” MOA which is short and handy. And, a 15.5” bolt action SP I built.
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2026 9:11 pm
by Wambli Ska
Not for $2k
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 4:14 am
by Chiro1989
Zee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 8:57 pm
I’ve been looking at that. Price will likely diminish my interest as have have a few .308 Specialty Pistols already. But, I’m interested. Need to see what the twist rate is first.
What did the keeper of the shoesalesman purse strings say, any discounts? Like I said, a little Science! to see if you can break one...
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 4:35 am
by Ernie
Chiro1989 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 4:14 am
Zee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 8:57 pm
I’ve been looking at that. Price will likely diminish my interest as have have a few .308 Specialty Pistols already. But, I’m interested. Need to see what the twist rate is first.
What did the keeper of the shoesalesman purse strings say, any discounts? Like I said, a little Science! to see if you can break one...
Some people can break things without even trying...
The SA Heatseeker is a cool SP, but currently costly.
My guess is it would be a 10T, but that doesn't it will be so.
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 11:41 am
by CPJ 2.0
jkp wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 8:47 pm
Interesting, but I don't know that it's $2k interesting. Like most of the recent SA offerings it seems to be significantly over priced for what it is. After the new wears off there might be some deals to be had. I wish PSA would get on a project like this.
https://www.guns.com/news/2026/04/19/ne ... 308-pistol
PSA is working on a 700 clone. For like two years now. But they keep releasing stupid versions of AR stuff.
The chassis alone is $500-ish. I’ve got one (same brand, but rifle version)for a Ruger American.
A nice 700 clone action can be had for $900. $200 for a good trigger. We are now at $1600, and still need a barrel.
I doubt it will be $2k, more around $1500.
It’s interesting as a braced pistol, not so much as a “pistol”.
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 12:48 pm
by Bigslug
One does feel compelled to ask where the rest of the rifle is.
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 1:07 pm
by Wambli Ska
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 1:10 pm
by Wambli Ska
CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 11:41 am
jkp wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 8:47 pm
Interesting, but I don't know that it's $2k interesting. Like most of the recent SA offerings it seems to be significantly over priced for what it is. After the new wears off there might be some deals to be had. I wish PSA would get on a project like this.
https://www.guns.com/news/2026/04/19/ne ... 308-pistol
PSA is working on a 700 clone. For like two years now. But they keep releasing stupid versions of AR stuff.
The chassis alone is $500-ish. I’ve got one (same brand, but rifle version)for a Ruger American.
A nice 700 clone action can be had for $900. $200 for a good trigger. We are now at $1600, and still need a barrel.
I doubt it will be $2k, more around $1500.
It’s interesting as a braced pistol, not so much as a “pistol”.
So how long would it take you or a guy like Justsomedude to knock out a 700 type action in your shop? Seems like a very easy proposition... Just curious.
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 2:02 pm
by CPJ 2.0
The hard part would be the locking lugs. The rest of it wouldn’t be horrible. Fussy, but not horrible. I’ve pondered it, but….thats a lot of PSI next to my handsome face. I’d prefer to not have the bolt exit through my head.
I’ve done a .22 LR action, but that’s easy peasy as the “locking lug” is the bolt handle. And no need for fussy heat treat.
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 2:32 pm
by Justsomedude
CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 2:02 pm
The hard part would be the locking lugs. The rest of it wouldn’t be horrible. Fussy, but not horrible. I’ve pondered it, but….thats a lot of PSI next to my handsome face. I’d prefer to not have the bolt exit through my head.
I’ve done a .22 LR action, but that’s easy peasy as the “locking lug” is the bolt handle. And no need for fussy heat treat.
I too have pondered this dilemma. Two options, two sections either welded together and then heat treated (raceway and then locking lugs) or have someone else wire EDM the thing. They only need to be made from 4340 and heat treated and tempered to 34RC.
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 2:34 pm
by Justsomedude
Oh, I've also thought of a simpler and probably stronger one piece solution. Its hard to explain but basically the bolt lugs would be protruding ball bearings that fall into a circular groove in the reciever to act as a lockup.
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 2:48 pm
by Chiro1989
Ernie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 4:35 am
Chiro1989 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 4:14 am
Zee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 21, 2026 8:57 pm
I’ve been looking at that. Price will likely diminish my interest as have have a few .308 Specialty Pistols already. But, I’m interested. Need to see what the twist rate is first.
What did the keeper of the shoesalesman purse strings say, any discounts? Like I said, a little Science! to see if you can break one...
Some people can break things without even trying...
The SA Heatseeker is a cool SP, but currently costly.
My guess is it would be a 10T, but that doesn't it will be so.
He resisted for like 5 minutes and was "thinking about it" on Sunday when I was texting with him
, like I said, work related expense....
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 3:01 pm
by shotgunshooter3
Kind of like our French Model hinted at, as a sum of its parts I don't think it's "too bad" price wise, especially at what will likely be a 10-20% lower street price. It's not for me, but I don't hate it.
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 3:18 pm
by CPJ 2.0
Justsomedude wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 2:34 pm
Oh, I've also thought of a simpler and probably stronger one piece solution. Its hard to explain but basically the bolt lugs would be protruding ball bearings that fall into a circular groove in the reciever to act as a lockup.
Someone has done that. I can’t recall who.
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 3:24 pm
by CPJ 2.0
Justsomedude wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 2:32 pm
CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 2:02 pm
The hard part would be the locking lugs. The rest of it wouldn’t be horrible. Fussy, but not horrible. I’ve pondered it, but….thats a lot of PSI next to my handsome face. I’d prefer to not have the bolt exit through my head.
I’ve done a .22 LR action, but that’s easy peasy as the “locking lug” is the bolt handle. And no need for fussy heat treat.
I too have pondered this dilemma. Two options, two sections either welded together and then heat treated (raceway and then locking lugs) or have someone else wire EDM the thing. They only need to be made from 4340 and heat treated and tempered to 34RC.
That’s an interesting take. One could have just the tip EDMd, which would save a TON of money, and…..at that point it’s an unrecognizable part. Cause unless the shop has the blessing of the crown, they couldn’t make a receiver.
“But but but welding the back half on is sketchy! Why, it would blow up in your face!”
Enter the way an AR15 works….
Thanks for giving me dumb ideas!
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 4:11 pm
by Justsomedude
CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 3:24 pm
Justsomedude wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 2:32 pm
CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 2:02 pm
The hard part would be the locking lugs. The rest of it wouldn’t be horrible. Fussy, but not horrible. I’ve pondered it, but….thats a lot of PSI next to my handsome face. I’d prefer to not have the bolt exit through my head.
I’ve done a .22 LR action, but that’s easy peasy as the “locking lug” is the bolt handle. And no need for fussy heat treat.
I too have pondered this dilemma. Two options, two sections either welded together and then heat treated (raceway and then locking lugs) or have someone else wire EDM the thing. They only need to be made from 4340 and heat treated and tempered to 34RC.
That’s an interesting take. One could have just the tip EDMd, which would save a TON of money, and…..at that point it’s an unrecognizable part. Cause unless the shop has the blessing of the crown, they couldn’t make a receiver.
“But but but welding the back half on is sketchy! Why, it would blow up in your face!”
Enter the way an AR15 works….
Thanks for giving me dumb ideas!
I wasn't aware that anyone did the ball bearings lug idea but I still want to try it. And the wire edm would probably work really well. I imagine that's how the factories do it
. It would be easy to have that done and then just bore and thread the front to make the tenon/lug portion.
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 4:13 pm
by CPJ 2.0
Only boutique makers do EDM, I’m pretty sure. It’s way to slow (time is money) to make production stuff from.
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 4:15 pm
by CPJ 2.0
Some German company uses them, and now so does Savage.
https://savagearms.com/blog/post/hexloc ... in-impulse
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 7:33 pm
by Ernie
Chiro1989 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 2:48 pm
Ernie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 4:35 am
Chiro1989 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 4:14 am
What did the keeper of the shoesalesman purse strings say, any discounts? Like I said, a little Science! to see if you can break one...
Some people can break things without even trying...
The SA Heatseeker is a cool SP, but currently costly.
My guess is it would be a 10T, but that doesn't it will be so.
He resisted for like 5 minutes and was "thinking about it" on Sunday when I was texting with him
, like I said, work related expense....
I don't think they are available yet...I could be wrong there.
I guess time will tell whether or not he "pulls the trigger" on one.
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 8:05 pm
by Elk Creek
Walther uses a ball bearing QD setup to do a barrel change option of a rimfire straight pull rifle….
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 9:21 pm
by Justsomedude
Elk Creek wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 8:05 pm
Walther uses a ball bearing QD setup to do a barrel change option of a rimfire straight pull rifle….
I've definitely never seen that before. Interesting way to hold the tenon into the reciever. The same way that works (like an air compressor fitting) is kinda what I have in mind for the bolt and locking lugs with an inner and outer bolt.
I seriously wish I could clone myself to build all of the ideas in my head, on top of doing customer jobs. Ideas gone to waste just irritate me.
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 10:27 pm
by Zee
Chiro1989 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 2:48 pm
Ernie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 4:35 am
Chiro1989 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2026 4:14 am
What did the keeper of the shoesalesman purse strings say, any discounts? Like I said, a little Science! to see if you can break one...
Some people can break things without even trying...
The SA Heatseeker is a cool SP, but currently costly.
My guess is it would be a 10T, but that doesn't it will be so.
He resisted for like 5 minutes and was "thinking about it" on Sunday when I was texting with him
, like I said, work related expense....
I’ll probably resist. It’s new and shiny to look at. But, will likely dim by the time they are available and I see the sticker price.
Re: SA Heatseeker pistol
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2026 2:10 am
by Ernie
Hopefully, the price will come down...I can sure see one of those in your hands
. It would be easy to have that done and then just bore and thread the front to make the tenon/lug portion.