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Because it isn't being discussed here as yet:

https://youtu.be/RXj9hFzOmTY?si=GtZRGsrVnuTTqeZi
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Watched a different video on it.
If the safe was in the warrant, then like Jerry Garcia said “ if you’ve got a warrant, I guess you’re gonna come in.”

But, does that give the safe maker the right to give the fuzz the backdoor combo?

It’s technically NOT they’re safe since the customer bought it.

It’ll be interesting to watch liberty squirm.
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I know you’ll hate to hear this, my belly, dancing, freak friend, however, social media wins the day.

https://youtu.be/B9b2WcpY7xo?si=H28p68edkAyvqtH_




Liberty safe **** around, and now they found out.
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CPJ 2.0 wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:49 am Watched a different video on it.
If the safe was in the warrant, then like Jerry Garcia said “ if you’ve got a warrant, I guess you’re gonna come in.”

But, does that give the safe maker the right to give the fuzz the backdoor combo?

It’s technically NOT they’re safe since the customer bought it.

It’ll be interesting to watch liberty squirm.
From what I've been able to read, they feds had a warrant, but then they took that too Liberty and asked if they Liberty could give them the pass code. The warrant wasn't with Liberty, just Liberty obliged. So that creates a question: should Liberty give out the passcodes without being directly asked through warrant? I dunno.

A lot of people are panicking because their safe's "not secure if Liberty has a backdoor passcode." But, if they lose their combination or something goes bad, guess what they'll want Liberty to provide?
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All the extra commas above are from Siri. Voice to text on my
Schmart foan.
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breamfisher wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:03 pm
CPJ 2.0 wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:49 am Watched a different video on it.
If the safe was in the warrant, then like Jerry Garcia said “ if you’ve got a warrant, I guess you’re gonna come in.”

But, does that give the safe maker the right to give the fuzz the backdoor combo?

It’s technically NOT they’re safe since the customer bought it.

It’ll be interesting to watch liberty squirm.
From what I've been able to read, they feds had a warrant, but then they took that too Liberty and asked if they Liberty could give them the pass code. The warrant wasn't with Liberty, just Liberty obliged. So that creates a question: should Liberty give out the passcodes without being directly asked through warrant? I dunno.

A lot of people are panicking because their safe's "not secure if Liberty has a backdoor passcode." But, if they lose their combination or something goes bad, guess what they'll want Liberty to provide?


So after getting bud lighted, Liberty changed the policy. Now they will require a subpoena to give combos to LEOs. And you can purge your own records.
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If the feds have a warrant, they ARE going to get in. The only real question is how much destruction is required from them to get what they want.

Safe = steel box. It's not some indestructible, impenetrable, forcefield. There are plenty of videos, on "the 'tube", showing safes being forced open.


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https://youtu.be/B8ViUdd-2LM?si=0c3HjxOf28wyMKz6
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GrapeApe wrote: Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:38 pm If the feds have a warrant, they ARE going to get in. The only real question is how much destruction is required from them to get what they want.

Safe = steel box. It's not some indestructible, impenetrable, forcefield. There are plenty of videos, on "the 'tube", showing safes being forced open.


edited to add:
https://youtu.be/B8ViUdd-2LM?si=0c3HjxOf28wyMKz6
That's nice. That doesn't give Liberty the right to bend over on behalf of the customer. If the suspect wants to open the safe for them/give them the combo, that's on him. Its not Liberty's call to be a "statist whore" as one website called it.
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That's a very good video.
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Let’s just hope this stunt bankrupts Liberty Safe a bud light
If FBI gets a universal opening code it won’t be long until criminals have it.

Here is a good comprehensive report:
https://humanevents.com/2023/09/06/davi ... tical-ally
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Japhy wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 3:05 am Let’s just hope this stunt bankrupts Liberty Safe a bud light
If FBI gets a universal opening code it won’t be long until criminals have it.

Here is a good comprehensive report:
https://humanevents.com/2023/09/06/davi ... tical-ally
That's for sure...
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That is a good article, and underlines the need to eliminate "virtue signalling". Companies need to sell their product, provide their service, and shut the fudge up. "Corporate Personhood"...

Chick-Fil-A has managed to piss EVERYBODY off by flip-flopping on "virtue signalling".
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Japhy wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 3:05 am Let’s just hope this stunt bankrupts Liberty Safe a bud light
If FBI gets a universal opening code it won’t be long until criminals have it.

Here is a good comprehensive report:
https://humanevents.com/2023/09/06/davi ... tical-ally
"Comprehensive".

Yes. If that means taking advantage of the right wing nut jobs proclivity of siding with ANYTHING as long as you mention any key words uttered to elicit a response.

"Why on earth would you say THAT, Chris!?!"

Because that article mentioned poop that had nothing. I mean fudge ALL on a big ship to do with this particular instance.

Budlight, Target, etc? NOTHING to do with an alphabet agency getting a code from a safe company. Those things were SOCIAL issues, brought about by a minority of people. Not a company cooperating with ABCEIEIO. Apples and oranges. But Grandpa Faceboomer will latch RIGHT on to those items, spread it across all forms of social media (like gun forums, YouTube, face book, X, etc etc) and bring it up during coffee at the local Dirty Rons (Mac-Donalds) with other like minded (IE unable to discern fact from BS, as sheepy-brained as the "other side") folks because they fell for it.


And side note, thats not a "universal unlock code".

Its ONE code, assigned to THAT lock.

But, it riles more people up if all of the sudden FedBoi INC have the universal code. Because CONSPIRACY!


So everyone is clear, I think Liberty **** up big time. They are going to get their just deserts. They 100% deserve it. But this isnt a woke conspiracy. Liberty isnt in cahoots with budlight to make a safe that holds homa-sexual swim wear for toddlers for sale at Target.

Use your brain people, media of all types from ALL SIDES is reliant upon you believing everything you read and spreading it around.
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Chiro1989 wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:33 pm 55d820eabbe756773e07add703a266d533ee1906_2_765x750.jpeg
That’s how I find 98% of my news.

See the meme then look it up.
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Liberty announced a new policy. You can have your code expunged from their records upon request. If the FBI or any other agency gets a warrant they will comply, but they can't give what they no longer have.
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Zorba wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 3:18 pm Chick-Fil-A has managed to piss EVERYBODY off by flip-flopping on "virtue signalling".
I don't know who you consider "EVERYBODY" but no one in my part of Florida has any issue with them, in fact they're building a second one in Fort Walton Beach. Is this another smart phone, social media kind of thing?
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fisheadgib wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:05 pm
Zorba wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 3:18 pm Chick-Fil-A has managed to piss EVERYBODY off by flip-flopping on "virtue signalling".
I don't know who you consider "EVERYBODY" but no one in my part of Florida has any issue with them, in fact they're building a second one in Fort Walton Beach. Is this another smart phone, social media kind of thing?
Nope - first they did the whole "Christianist" thing a few years back, now they're in hot water with conservatives when it came out that they have a DEI director. They'd be better off if they'd just STFU and sell their chicken - which is pretty good!

https://nypost.com/2023/05/30/chick-fil ... vp-of-dei/
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There was an old safe manufacturer back in the day that had ampules of phosgene gas for anyone that would tamper their way in. Nothing would make me smile more than some tyrants fafo.
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Zorba wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:10 pm
fisheadgib wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 11:05 pm
Zorba wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 3:18 pm Chick-Fil-A has managed to piss EVERYBODY off by flip-flopping on "virtue signalling".
I don't know who you consider "EVERYBODY" but no one in my part of Florida has any issue with them, in fact they're building a second one in Fort Walton Beach. Is this another smart phone, social media kind of thing?
Nope - first they did the whole "Christianist" thing a few years back, now they're in hot water with conservatives when it came out that they have a DEI director. They'd be better off if they'd just STFU and sell their chicken - which is pretty good!

https://nypost.com/2023/05/30/chick-fil ... vp-of-dei/
So other than hiring a diversity and inclusion person, what have they done to make the right wing nut jobs go crazy? I’m guessing……not a god damned thing. Because the D/I guy that works for CFA ain’t gonna hire Dylan Mulvaney for a promotion. But hey. You never know.

“BUT JESUS HATES GAYS AND I KNOW THEY WILL BE PROMOTING HOMA-SEXUALS IN NO TIME FLAT! I HEARD THEY MADE A CHICKEN SANDWICH THATS WRAPPED IN PINK PAPER! DEAR JESUS OUR KIDS ARE GONNA TURN QUEER!”


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Side note, their chicken sammich is the SINGLE MOST overrated food item in the USA.
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The Chick-Fil-A DEI person is there so they can better accommodate those with various disabilities and so they can better reach various ethnic groups. Both for customer and employees. Makes a lot of sense from a recruiting, marketing, and growth perspective.

It also encourages employees to be kind to all customers. Even men in dresses who wear makeup.

But the Faceboomers haven't bothered to look into that, because they've been told DEI is bad, nevermind what it may actually cover.

Oh, and CPJ is right. Their chicken is edible, but the only thinh it beats is KFC and the burger joints' "chicken nuggets."
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I like Chik-fil-A's waffle fries,
Their chicken sucks
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I hear that from a lot of people.

When you're A chicken joint and people talk about your fries, you have problems.
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