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Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:50 am
by CPJ 2.0
I like this. A lot. Marked Herters on the barrel, it’s a CZ Mauser action. It’s my cousins, who got it from his dad. His dad ordered the barreled action and stock separately, sometime in the mid 1960s. Right hand action, that he shot left handed, hence the stock.
I like the stock, because it’s not gaudy like a Weatherby style stock from the same era. I’ll even forgive the white line spacers. I was confirming zero today, and good thing I did. It was off. Not sure why someone would want a “vintage” scope, but hey. Not my deal. After deer season, it’s getting brought home and getting a spa treatment. It’s NASTY inside the bolt. I’ll remove the rust and refinish the stock. Too nice to let it be.

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:56 am
by Diver43
CPJ 2.0 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:50 am I like this. A lot. Marked Herters on the barrel, it’s a CZ Mauser action. It’s my cousins, who got it from his dad. His dad ordered the barreled action and stock separately, sometime in the mid 1960s. Right hand action, that he shot left handed, hence the stock.
I like the stock, because it’s not gaudy like a Weatherby style stock from the same era. I’ll even forgive the white line spacers. I was confirming zero today, and good thing I did. It was off. Not sure why someone would want a “vintage” scope, but hey. Not my deal. After deer season, it’s getting brought home and getting a spa treatment. It’s NASTY inside the bolt. I’ll remove the rust and refinish the stock. Too nice to let it be.
Great to keep the good old ones going. Show us how it cleans up when finished

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:45 am
by Wambli Ska
Beautiful! Love the classics from that era. 30-06?

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:22 am
by sakodude
There is a pretty decent old Parker-Hale in a caliber that shall not be named for sale locally. Metal is quite good, wood needs a little love.
If the price was just a little more attractive...

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:15 pm
by CPJ 2.0
Wambli Ska wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:45 am Beautiful! Love the classics from that era. 30-06?
.243

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:23 pm
by bullsi1911
That is a classic from the era. Very nice, and I want to see how you get it to shoot!

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:32 pm
by CPJ 2.0
bullsi1911 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:23 pm That is a classic from the era. Very nice, and I want to see how you get it to shoot!
Final two shots were MOA-ish. I was curious, but limited on quantity of someone else’s ammo.

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:03 pm
by Zee
What ammo you using? If I had to guess, being an older rifle, it could likely have a slower twist rate than common today.

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:24 pm
by CPJ 2.0
Zee wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:03 pm What ammo you using? If I had to guess, being an older rifle, it could likely have a slower twist rate than common today.
100 grain Remington psp.

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:02 pm
by CPJ 2.0
I dig the bolt knob. Underside is flat and checkered. Pure minimalist function.

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:35 pm
by Japhy
Most likely that stock comes from Warsaw, Missouri
home of Reinhart Fajen and is made from Missouri walnut. Relatives sold many walnut trees to RF years ago.

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:48 pm
by Wambli Ska
CPJ 2.0 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:15 pm
Wambli Ska wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:45 am Beautiful! Love the classics from that era. 30-06?
.243
That’s great! Most of those types guns were 30-60 or .270s. I think .243 is a relatively unusual chambering 👍

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:32 pm
by CPJ 2.0
Japhy wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:35 pm Most likely that stock comes from Warsaw, Missouri
home of Reinhart Fajen and is made from Missouri walnut. Relatives sold many walnut trees to RF years ago.
In fact it did.

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 2:04 am
by LMLarsen
Now that’s nice!

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:14 am
by Justsomedude
I love those Fajen stocks. They're hard to come by nowadays. Beautiful rifle.

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:33 pm
by Bigslug
NICE! I'll take the cheap hunting rifle of the '60's over the cheap hunting rifle of now any day! That rifle may have been built up in rebellion to the fact someone had just recently lost the ability to buy a "real" Winchester Model 70. Close enough to the Sears/JC Higgins Model 51/FN-M98 as to make little difference. It deserves your attention.

Once upon a time, I'd instinctively have kicked the "vintage optics" and their mounts to the curb. Any more, it's probably a judgement call starting with function. Friction adjustments rub me the wrong way. Crappy light transmission rubs me the wrong way. Intact, working, examples of period combos however tend to rub me jussssssst right in special places. :lol:

Then again, I was recently inspired to help a work buddy upgrade the '60's or '70's hand-me-down glass on his mid-'80's Remington 78 Sportsman after he came out last year with a limited amount of ammo needing to get zeroed mere days before season opener. Not only was it friction dials, they weren't marked in any way, shape, or form as to what the adjustment value per hash mark was. Definitely not confidence building when you're still chasing the spotter with only ten rounds left. . .including the ones he had to hunt with. Set him up with a VX3 2.5-8CDS-L sporting a custom dial for the ammo he's shooting. After I sent him a 1" 200 yard group, I don't think he misses the old scope too much.

Dunno. . .the desire to hunt with Grandpa's rifle as-is sometimes collides with the reality that he'd have used our optics if he had 'em.

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:09 pm
by CPJ 2.0
Bigslug wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:33 pm NICE! I'll take the cheap hunting rifle of the '60's over the cheap hunting rifle of now any day! That rifle may have been built up in rebellion to the fact someone had just recently lost the ability to buy a "real" Winchester Model 70. Close enough to the Sears/JC Higgins Model 51/FN-M98 as to make little difference. It deserves your attention.

Once upon a time, I'd instinctively have kicked the "vintage optics" and their mounts to the curb. Any more, it's probably a judgement call starting with function. Friction adjustments rub me the wrong way. Crappy light transmission rubs me the wrong way. Intact, working, examples of period combos however tend to rub me jussssssst right in special places. :lol:

Then again, I was recently inspired to help a work buddy upgrade the '60's or '70's hand-me-down glass on his mid-'80's Remington 78 Sportsman after he came out last year with a limited amount of ammo needing to get zeroed mere days before season opener. Not only was it friction dials, they weren't marked in any way, shape, or form as to what the adjustment value per hash mark was. Definitely not confidence building when you're still chasing the spotter with only ten rounds left. . .including the ones he had to hunt with. Set him up with a VX3 2.5-8CDS-L sporting a custom dial for the ammo he's shooting. After I sent him a 1" 200 yard group, I don't think he misses the old scope too much.

Dunno. . .the desire to hunt with Grandpa's rifle as-is sometimes collides with the reality that he'd have used our optics if he had 'em.
This scope had “clicks”. Really really mushy clicks. Zero confidence inspired while turning them. A $40 Walmart scope would beat the pants off it

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:18 pm
by CPJ 2.0
I think what draws me to this one over most rifles from the same period is that it’s PLAIN. Not gaudy. Just well crafted.
If t’were mine, it would get refinished with a nice matte blue or gray parkerize, and the stock would also be a nice non-glossy finish.
Which, that’s what will happen to the stock at least once I get my hands on it. 🙂

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:59 am
by jbp-ohio
Is the stock missing a fore end cap? Looks unfinished.

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:19 am
by CPJ 2.0
jbp-ohio wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:59 am Is the stock missing a fore end cap? Looks unfinished.
It looks perfect. Not like some pimp owns it.

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:50 am
by Freezer
To each their own! I like the white spacers, end caps and grip caps.

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:25 pm
by bullsi1911

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:08 pm
by Bigslug
CPJ 2.0 wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 3:18 pm I think what draws me to this one over most rifles from the same period is that it’s PLAIN. Not gaudy. Just well crafted.
I hear ya. WWII really spurred a need to decrease production costs and increase production rates. That was fine for fighting a war, but it left a cancer of bean counting in the commercial side of the industry that we're still dealing with (i.e. Freedom Group / Remington).

I think one of the worst production choices of the era was the trend to stamped "checkering" under gloss varnish. I think it was Winchester in the post-'64 era that latched onto some kind of basket weave pattern that was about the last word in hideous. They could have done smooth wood and had cheaper AND better looking. At least Weatherby was pimp that somebody spent some effort on, but those cheapass disco ball rifles. . .ick!

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:49 pm
by jbp-ohio
CPJ 2.0 wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:19 am
jbp-ohio wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:59 am Is the stock missing a fore end cap? Looks unfinished.
It looks perfect. Not like some pimp owns it.
Nothing wrong with just using the same wood throughout. Heck. The 788 is my favorite rifle (although I never owned one. But it isn't shaped. It looks perfectly flat like it was meant for something else to be glued on.

Re: Walnut and blue doesn’t turn my crank, but…

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:10 pm
by CPJ 2.0
jbp-ohio wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:49 pm
CPJ 2.0 wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:19 am
jbp-ohio wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:59 am Is the stock missing a fore end cap? Looks unfinished.
It looks perfect. Not like some pimp owns it.
Nothing wrong with just using the same wood throughout. Heck. The 788 is my favorite rifle (although I never owned one. But it isn't shaped. It looks perfectly flat like it was meant for something else to be glued on.
Not looking like the head of a cock is perfectly fine.