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Well that’s not a religion, and technically what they stand for is illegal, so I’m gonna wager…that’s never gonna be an issue. But the satanic church is a religion that has the exact same rights as Catholics, Baptists, Muslims, church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, snake handling wackadoos baptists, Mormons, tongue speaking flopping like a fish on the floor evangelicals, etc etc etc.fisheadgib wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:10 am Next thing you know, they won't be letting the North American Man/Boy Love Association have their meetings at the schools. That will really piss you off.
Well by that logic your religion isn’t legitimate. You know, since there’s no registry.fisheadgib wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:24 am It's a following just like the group that you referenced. I'm not aware of any registry of which followings are legitimate and which aren't.
I never referenced a religion.CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:51 amWell by that logic your religion isn’t legitimate. You know, since there’s no registry.fisheadgib wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:24 am It's a following just like the group that you referenced. I'm not aware of any registry of which followings are legitimate and which aren't.
Well, hail Satan. It is a religion. According to the IRS at least. I suppose that’s the closest thing to a registry.fisheadgib wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:58 amI never referenced a religion.CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:51 amWell by that logic your religion isn’t legitimate. You know, since there’s no registry.fisheadgib wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:24 am It's a following just like the group that you referenced. I'm not aware of any registry of which followings are legitimate and which aren't.
Would you be OK with a Muslim group holding a meeting at a school?Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:45 pm Equality has nothing to do with this. This is about community standards, a long time recognized way of dealing with subjects too complex for the law to deal with. The concept of states, counties, cities, towns and villages being allowed to self regulate how they live and operate with their own beliefs, laws and ordinances was envisioned by the Founding Fathers and why they put delimiters in place to the Federal Government powers with the Constitution and Ammendments (Bill of Rights).
The purpose of this was so like minded people could drift together and form communities with other likeminded folks and pursue happiness as a group. Thats why we have pockets of Mormons, Irish, Cajuns, Germans, Chinese, Jews still all over the country.
But then the government started over reaching with their “authority” because of racial discrimination. We accepted that and then came racial equality and we accepted that too so the government has gone full stupid and now feels like they have to guarantee the acceptance of any fringe group of idiots no matter how small or how much the community does not want them in their midst. Not only acceptance but protection.
And yes I see a time not very far in the future in which MAMBLA will be “protected” too. They are already in classrooms, disguised as cross dressers giving lap dances to children under the schools sponsorship…
At least the Satanists are good for a laugh. A bunch of attention seeking whores that are too ridiculous to function within normal society so the spend all their time trying to irritate everyone by being in-conformist and melodramatic to attract attention, just like every other group of fringe kisers out there. There probably 3 idiots in the group and they could be meeting in one of their moms basements but nope…. National news it is with the government’s and our new useless Legal system’s aid.
I personally could not care less, but I’d be fine with a Jewish school denying a radical Muslim group a space to meet.CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:10 pmWould you be OK with a Muslim group holding a meeting at a school?Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:45 pm Equality has nothing to do with this. This is about community standards, a long time recognized way of dealing with subjects too complex for the law to deal with. The concept of states, counties, cities, towns and villages being allowed to self regulate how they live and operate with their own beliefs, laws and ordinances was envisioned by the Founding Fathers and why they put delimiters in place to the Federal Government powers with the Constitution and Ammendments (Bill of Rights).
The purpose of this was so like minded people could drift together and form communities with other likeminded folks and pursue happiness as a group. Thats why we have pockets of Mormons, Irish, Cajuns, Germans, Chinese, Jews still all over the country.
But then the government started over reaching with their “authority” because of racial discrimination. We accepted that and then came racial equality and we accepted that too so the government has gone full stupid and now feels like they have to guarantee the acceptance of any fringe group of idiots no matter how small or how much the community does not want them in their midst. Not only acceptance but protection.
And yes I see a time not very far in the future in which MAMBLA will be “protected” too. They are already in classrooms, disguised as cross dressers giving lap dances to children under the schools sponsorship…
At least the Satanists are good for a laugh. A bunch of attention seeking whores that are too ridiculous to function within normal society so the spend all their time trying to irritate everyone by being in-conformist and melodramatic to attract attention, just like every other group of fringe kisers out there. There probably 3 idiots in the group and they could be meeting in one of their moms basements but nope…. National news it is with the government’s and our new useless Legal system’s aid.
What bream said.Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:58 pmI personally could not care less, but I’d be fine with a Jewish school denying a radical Muslim group a space to meet.CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:10 pmWould you be OK with a Muslim group holding a meeting at a school?Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:45 pm Equality has nothing to do with this. This is about community standards, a long time recognized way of dealing with subjects too complex for the law to deal with. The concept of states, counties, cities, towns and villages being allowed to self regulate how they live and operate with their own beliefs, laws and ordinances was envisioned by the Founding Fathers and why they put delimiters in place to the Federal Government powers with the Constitution and Ammendments (Bill of Rights).
The purpose of this was so like minded people could drift together and form communities with other likeminded folks and pursue happiness as a group. Thats why we have pockets of Mormons, Irish, Cajuns, Germans, Chinese, Jews still all over the country.
But then the government started over reaching with their “authority” because of racial discrimination. We accepted that and then came racial equality and we accepted that too so the government has gone full stupid and now feels like they have to guarantee the acceptance of any fringe group of idiots no matter how small or how much the community does not want them in their midst. Not only acceptance but protection.
And yes I see a time not very far in the future in which MAMBLA will be “protected” too. They are already in classrooms, disguised as cross dressers giving lap dances to children under the schools sponsorship…
At least the Satanists are good for a laugh. A bunch of attention seeking whores that are too ridiculous to function within normal society so the spend all their time trying to irritate everyone by being in-conformist and melodramatic to attract attention, just like every other group of fringe kisers out there. There probably 3 idiots in the group and they could be meeting in one of their moms basements but nope…. National news it is with the government’s and our new useless Legal system’s aid.
I think the federal government should have never gotten into the business of deciding how communities self govern and make decisions.CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:36 pmWhat bream said.Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:58 pmI personally could not care less, but I’d be fine with a Jewish school denying a radical Muslim group a space to meet.
But, why would you be ok with one organized religion and not another?
Governed by a local elected education board. Again the Federal government needs to get the F out of local affairs…. If the board is out of bounds they will be dealt with by the local folks that put them there.breamfisher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:28 pm ...except the school in the example is public. Not a private, religious school.
So do you believe that it is OK for local governments to make anti-2nd amendment laws?Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:51 pmGoverned by a local elected education board. Again the Federal government needs to get the F out of local affairs…. If the board is out of bounds they will be dealt with by the local folks that put them there.breamfisher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:28 pm ...except the school in the example is public. Not a private, religious school.
Nope, that is a natural right enumerated in the Bill of Rights. And I know where you’re headed with this. Satanists should have the right to assemble and practice freely. They do not have the right to force a school system to let them use their facilities. That’s just stupid.CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:01 pmSo do you believe that it is OK for local governments to make anti-2nd amendment laws?Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:51 pmGoverned by a local elected education board. Again the Federal government needs to get the F out of local affairs…. If the board is out of bounds they will be dealt with by the local folks that put them there.breamfisher wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:28 pm ...except the school in the example is public. Not a private, religious school.
Did I miss where the first amendment isn’t a natural right enumerated in the bill of rights?Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:20 pmNope, that is a natural right enumerated in the Bill of Rights. And I know where you’re headed with this. Satanists should have the right to assemble and practice freely. They do not have the right to force a school system to let them use their facilities. That’s just stupid.CPJ 2.0 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:01 pmSo do you believe that it is OK for local governments to make anti-2nd amendment laws?Wambli Ska wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:51 pm
Governed by a local elected education board. Again the Federal government needs to get the F out of local affairs…. If the board is out of bounds they will be dealt with by the local folks that put them there.