Loctite?

[Zee]

How would solving future problems create more work for later? Anyone with a soldering iron can get it loose, easily. Have you ever tried it? It's main function is to support the threads 100%.

I’d recon a vast majority of hunters don’t have that knowledge or skill to remove or replace said screws. They hunt. They don’t know guns.
Just an assumption.

If they’re coming to you to mount their scope and base…..case in point.

[CPJ 2.0]

That’s a hack to create more business for a gun smith.

How?

How does that not screw up the threads for further screws once you remove the old screws if you want to change bases?

It doesn’t weld itself to the threads. There isn’t but a C hair of space between the threads, there won’t be much JB there. Worst case you run a tap through and done.

[CPJ 2.0]

How would solving future problems create more work for later? Anyone with a soldering iron can get it loose, easily. Have you ever tried it? It's main function is to support the threads 100%.

I’d recon a vast majority of hunters don’t have that knowledge or skill to remove or replace said screws. They hunt. They don’t know guns.
Just an assumption.

If they’re coming to you to mount their scope and base…..case in point.

That’s why gunsmiths are a thing.
Just like everyone doesn’t sell shoes. Or service fire systems.

[Zee]

How?

How does that not screw up the threads for further screws once you remove the old screws if you want to change bases?

It doesn’t weld itself to the threads. There isn’t but a C hair of spade between the threads. Worst case you run a tap through and done.

Again…….not the average Joe capability. Proves my point.

[Zee]

How would solving future problems create more work for later? Anyone with a soldering iron can get it loose, easily. Have you ever tried it? It's main function is to support the threads 100%.

I’d recon a vast majority of hunters don’t have that knowledge or skill to remove or replace said screws. They hunt. They don’t know guns.
Just an assumption.

If they’re coming to you to mount their scope and base…..case in point.

That’s why gunsmiths are a thing.
Just like everyone doesn’t sell shoes. Or service fire systems.

Bingo!
Thank you for proving my point.

[CPJ 2.0]

How does that not screw up the threads for further screws once you remove the old screws if you want to change bases?

It doesn’t weld itself to the threads. There isn’t but a C hair of spade between the threads. Worst case you run a tap through and done.

Again…….not the average Joe capability. Proves my point.

If you can’t run a tap in a hole that’s already tapped, you’re a ham fisted moron that has no business with a screw driver.

[Zee]

Hell, I know a poop load about guns and even I’VE never run a tap on a receiver screw!! My knuckles drag the ground.
Point is, you are creating an issue that the creator will likely have to fix if/when there is ever a decision change.

So. Absolutely NOT on a layman’s rifle unless you plan on a repeat customer. Or a dumbass.

[Zee]

It doesn’t weld itself to the threads. There isn’t but a C hair of spade between the threads. Worst case you run a tap through and done.

Again…….not the average Joe capability. Proves my point.

If you can’t run a tap in a hole that’s already tapped, you’re a ham fisted moron that has no business with a screw driver.

:raisinghand:

[Justsomedude]

That’s a hack to create more business for a gun smith.

How?

How does that not screw up the threads for further screws once you remove the old screws if you want to change bases?

It softens and loosens with heat.

[Justsomedude]

I've had people that lack so much self confidence, and maybe also mechanical skill that have brought me things like putting on new grip panels. I often try to convince them that they have the ability to do it and when they insist I usually just do it while they wait and give them a business card when they try to pay me. So yes, there are some people incapable of simple things but I make sure everyone that needs special instructions gets them before they leave.

[Diver43]

I've had people that lack so much self confidence, and maybe also mechanical skill that have brought me things like putting on new grip panels. I often try to convince them that they have the ability to do it and when they insist I usually just do it while they wait and give them a business card when they try to pay me. So yes, there are some people incapable of simple things but I make sure everyone that needs special instructions gets them before they leave.

I have to be honest, while I am not afraid to work on my guns, disassemble, replace parts, even did my own 10-22 trigger job after CPJ talked me into it, and so far haven't ruined anything. But the idea of putting JB weld to mount a scope, like in the holes in the receiver? Not sure I would do that, especially on a brand new gun that costs over 1 K
If you told me it must be done, id pay you or someone else I trust. I know the scope will eventually be upgraded so it must be removable

[Justsomedude]

I think alot of people seriously over estimate the strength and ability of JB weld.

[Zee]

I think alot of people seriously over estimate the strength and ability of JB weld.

A great possibility. And very true. I just don’t like gumming up threads. Especially thin ones.

[Justsomedude]

You also have to take application into consideration. A guy with a nice Weatherby likely isn't going to have the issues that Joe Blow with his Savage who has put 19 scopes and 4 bases on in the past year because he keeps putting the Amazon special on it has. I won't even mention the cross threaders that don't know there is metric and standard screws.

[Zee]

[shotgunshooter3]

I've had people that lack so much self confidence, and maybe also mechanical skill that have brought me things like putting on new grip panels. I often try to convince them that they have the ability to do it and when they insist I usually just do it while they wait and give them a business card when they try to pay me. So yes, there are some people incapable of simple things but I make sure everyone that needs special instructions gets them before they leave.

I have to be honest, while I am not afraid to work on my guns, disassemble, replace parts, even did my own 10-22 trigger job after CPJ talked me into it, and so far haven't ruined anything. But the idea of putting JB weld to mount a scope, like in the holes in the receiver? Not sure I would do that, especially on a brand new gun that costs over 1 K
If you told me it must be done, id pay you or someone else I trust. I know the scope will eventually be upgraded so it must be removable

I'm kind of in this camp as well. If it can be done with my Midway "Gunsmith" screwdriver set, some punches, and a torque wrench I'm not afraid to give it a go. Anything beyond that I start looking to field help from professionals.

[CPJ 2.0]

I've had people that lack so much self confidence, and maybe also mechanical skill that have brought me things like putting on new grip panels. I often try to convince them that they have the ability to do it and when they insist I usually just do it while they wait and give them a business card when they try to pay me. So yes, there are some people incapable of simple things but I make sure everyone that needs special instructions gets them before they leave.

I have to be honest, while I am not afraid to work on my guns, disassemble, replace parts, even did my own 10-22 trigger job after CPJ talked me into it, and so far haven't ruined anything. But the idea of putting JB weld to mount a scope, like in the holes in the receiver? Not sure I would do that, especially on a brand new gun that costs over 1 K
If you told me it must be done, id pay you or someone else I trust. I know the scope will eventually be upgraded so it must be removable

I'm kind of in this camp as well. If it can be done with my Midway "Gunsmith" screwdriver set, some punches, and a torque wrench I'm not afraid to give it a go. Anything beyond that I start looking to field help from professionals.

Welcome to 90%+ of gunsmith work. The proper tools and some YouTube’s and you can tackle most issues. It’s really not
rocket brains.

[Diver43]

Maybe not rocket science, but messing up a replaceable trigger or other, order it and replace it part is easy
Messing up the receiver of any gun is not something i care to do.

[Zee]

Hell, I cuss up a storm when our armored uses RockSet on muzzle brakes!! It’s not needed and it’s a pain in the ass!! Some gun smiths don’t think past their noses.
His explanation is, I shouldn’t be swapping them anyway. So, why worry about it?
Case in point of justifying their existence.

[farmboy II]

Hell, I know a poop load about guns and even I’VE never run a tap on a receiver screw!! My knuckles drag the ground.
Point is, you are creating an issue that the creator will likely have to fix if/when there is ever a decision change.

So. Absolutely NOT on a layman’s rifle unless you plan on a repeat customer. Or a dumbass.

Put it in these terms. What the JB Weld is doing the same work as Devcon in bedding an action. It’s not there to hold the screw in as much as remove the possibility of parts shifting on the screw.
One other thought would be, how often do scope bases get changed?

[Zee]

Hell, I know a poop load about guns and even I’VE never run a tap on a receiver screw!! My knuckles drag the ground.
Point is, you are creating an issue that the creator will likely have to fix if/when there is ever a decision change.

So. Absolutely NOT on a layman’s rifle unless you plan on a repeat customer. Or a dumbass.

Put it in these terms. What the JB Weld is doing the same work as Devcon in bedding an action. It’s not there to hold the screw in as much as remove the possibility of parts shifting on the screw.
One other thought would be, how often do scope bases get changed?

I get that. But, I disagree with the necessity and the added steps to undo the action.
On the flip side, my knuckles drag the ground. So, there is that.

[CPJ 2.0]

Hell, I cuss up a storm when our armored uses RockSet on muzzle brakes!! It’s not needed and it’s a pain in the ass!! Some gun smiths don’t think past their noses.
His explanation is, I shouldn’t be swapping them anyway. So, why worry about it?
Case in point of justifying their existence.

He’s 100% correct, for 99% of shoe salesman. (See what I did there?)

Normal meat-headed knuckle draggers DONT need to be swapping brakes.

“Not needed” and “won’t hurt” sometimes cross.

As to rock set, I just looked it up. fudge that poop. Yes there’s instructions on products for reasons, but it seems a little too picky for me.
But I suppose the high heat rating is why people use it.

[CPJ 2.0]

Hell, I know a poop load about guns and even I’VE never run a tap on a receiver screw!! My knuckles drag the ground.
Point is, you are creating an issue that the creator will likely have to fix if/when there is ever a decision change.

So. Absolutely NOT on a layman’s rifle unless you plan on a repeat customer. Or a dumbass.

Put it in these terms. What the JB Weld is doing the same work as Devcon in bedding an action. It’s not there to hold the screw in as much as remove the possibility of parts shifting on the screw.
One other thought would be, how often do scope bases get changed?

I get that. But, I disagree with the necessity and the added steps to undo the action.
On the flip side, my knuckles drag the ground. So, there is that.

Running a tap in a hole/screwing a screw in a hole….same same.

You eat bugs and balls, but you’re capable.

[Zee]

I have two kids, does that count?

[Justsomedude]

For the record, people that use rock set can burn in hell in the temps that won't even loosen the rock set.