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First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:54 pm
by Wambli Ska
Going for safety, smooth cycling and potential accuracy. Will fine tune later.

First set of test loads.

Benchmark load is the load Big Al gave me which work very well in this gun. Itโ€™s a 300gr LFP on top of 33 gr of 4198. Very mild and a pleasure to shoot ๐Ÿ‘

Black tip is 37 gra of AA2230, blue is 38gr and red is 49gr. According to GraoeApeโ€™s QuickLoad software I should still be well under the 28,000 psi the action is rated for and at 39 gr I should be closing in on 1,500fps and still under 22,000 psi.

So one last check, anyone see something wrong with the approach?

The Heeler is obviously thrilled for the trip in the Jeep ๐Ÿคฃ
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Making cases ๐Ÿ‘
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First batch of test loads
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QuickLoad numbers from our late night (for him) conversation.
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Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 6:57 pm
by Wambli Ska
Interesting enough all my loads exceed the OAL of 2.15โ€ of the original 45-60 specs, and yet, they all cycle through the Uberti flawlessly even when ejecting unfired ammo.

Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:17 pm
by Wambli Ska
Side question. Does anyone here have the Lyman 49th edition book? Apparently it has a good article on the 1876 with reloading info.

Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:45 pm
by JunkCollector
Thinking you meant to type 39 for the red tips?

Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:19 pm
by Wambli Ska
JunkCollector wrote: โ†‘Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:45 pm Thinking you meant to type 39 for the red tips?
Yes! Thanks for catching that ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
Unfortunately I canโ€™t edit it. Headed to BlM land in 5 and rolling old school by today ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Dan Wesson 10mm Razorback
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Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:56 pm
by GrapeApe
Actually "early morning" too, the phone call went past 2400hrs.
And I HATE phones automatically flipping pictures, if it wasn't for the watch pocket and no safety being visible, it looks like your packing lefty.
I'll be curious to see how the QL calculated data compares to real world. Though with the longer COAL, I'm betting velocity and pressure are going to be lower than predicted

Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:09 pm
by mitdr774
I do miss my RZ10. It was a beautiful gun that shot smooth and grouped consistently. I just shoot 1911s low and ended up selling it. I let other try it out at the range quite often when I had it out and if I had changed the sights for me it would have been shooting way too high for just about everyone else that ever shot it.

Looking forward to range results with the .45-60.

Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:26 pm
by Wambli Ska
GrapeApe wrote: โ†‘Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:56 pm Actually "early morning" too, the phone call went past 2400hrs.
And I HATE phones automatically flipping pictures, if it wasn't for the watch pocket and no safety being visible, it looks like your packing lefty.
I'll be curious to see how the QL calculated data compares to real world. Though with the longer COAL, I'm betting velocity and pressure are going to be lower than predicted
Not the phone flipping, I shot the picture from a mirror reflection. And thanks SO MUCH for forgiving me for forgetting the time difference ๐Ÿคฃ Did you ever catch your intruder?

Anyway, no chronograph today since I was just testing function and โ€œpotentialโ€. And I MIGHT have found my load first try ๐Ÿคฃ

It was cold and windy so I had no desire to linger but shooting grounds is a short drive away so no excuse not to get this done.

Set up some cans about 25 or so yards away so I could have something to aim at. Started with Alโ€™s load as my benchmark and it worked as well as it has all along. A pleasure to shoot, mild and accurate.

Moved to the first load on of 37gr of AA2230. Felt considerably stouter that my benchmark but still very pleasant to shoot. Shooting at the cans showed good potential accuracy. So far so good ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

Got to the middle test load of 38 grains and feeling a little more confidence I spotted a 5 gal bucket at about 100 plus yards.
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Put the front sight on it and the 3 shoots I sent down range โ€œQuigleydโ€ the bucket into the air ๐Ÿพ๐Ÿฅ‚ ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Amazing! Dead on with the factory sight setting and definitely stouter than 37 but still a very comfortable load to shoot!

Moved to 39 gr and something interesting happened. Somewhat stouter than 38 BUT I got soot down the side of the case. Soooooo I think Iโ€™m stopping at 38. Normally soot means the case is not adequately sealing the chamber so Iโ€™m not in the danger zone.

But if the middle load chronographs at the expected 1400 or so or even over Iโ€™m close enough to my goal and Iโ€™ll just fine tune and go from there. A 350gr plated slug at that velocity is as good of a short range thumper hunting load as Iโ€™ll ever need๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:52 pm
by sakodude
You just have to love it when the first loads do as desired. Saves a lot of time and frustration.

Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:56 pm
by CPJ 2.0
Wambli Ska wrote: โ†‘Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:19 pm
JunkCollector wrote: โ†‘Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:45 pm Thinking you meant to type 39 for the red tips?
Yes! Thanks for catching that ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
Unfortunately I canโ€™t edit it. Headed to BlM land in 5 and rolling old school by today ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Dan Wesson 10mm Razorback
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You suck at selfies.

Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:18 am
by Wambli Ska
sakodude wrote: โ†‘Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:52 pm You just have to love it when the first loads do as desired. Saves a lot of time and frustration.
It certainly does. Just loaded 10 rounds to shoot some groups but Iโ€™m expecting this to be my new standard hunting load for this gun.

Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:20 am
by Wambli Ska
CPJ 2.0 wrote: โ†‘Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:56 pm
Wambli Ska wrote: โ†‘Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:19 pm
JunkCollector wrote: โ†‘Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:45 pm Thinking you meant to type 39 for the red tips?
Yes! Thanks for catching that ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
Unfortunately I canโ€™t edit it. Headed to BlM land in 5 and rolling old school by today ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Dan Wesson 10mm Razorback
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You suck at selfies.
Agreed! Never been any good at itโ€ฆ

Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:09 am
by sakodude
If you can find any, the Hornady 350gr Jacketed round nose flat point has shot exceptionally well out of my Marlin Cowboy 45-70 and would probably be my go to if I ever actually hunt with that rifle.

Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:13 am
by Wambli Ska
sakodude wrote: โ†‘Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:09 am If you can find any, the Hornady 350gr Jacketed round nose flat point has shot exceptionally well out of my Marlin Cowboy 45-70 and would probably be my go to if I ever actually hunt with that rifle.
Thatโ€™s a thought! Iโ€™ll look around ๐Ÿ‘

Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:26 am
by Elk Creek
sakodude wrote: โ†‘Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:09 am If you can find any, the Hornady 350gr Jacketed round nose flat point has shot exceptionally well out of my Marlin Cowboy 45-70 and would probably be my go to if I ever actually hunt with that rifle.
X2, my marlin shoots the 350 grain flat points very well!!

Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:57 am
by GrapeApe
And Yes, Mr Virginia O. Possum will not be giving me any more problems. At least that one won't

Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:27 pm
by Big Al1
I just LOVE science at work!! Now you need a tang sight and beech front sight!! :)

Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:43 pm
by Wambli Ska
Elk Creek wrote: โ†‘Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:26 am
sakodude wrote: โ†‘Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:09 am If you can find any, the Hornady 350gr Jacketed round nose flat point has shot exceptionally well out of my Marlin Cowboy 45-70 and would probably be my go to if I ever actually hunt with that rifle.
X2, my marlin shoots the 350 grain flat points very well!!
I MIGHT have found some but backordered ๐Ÿคฌ

Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:43 pm
by Wambli Ska
GrapeApe wrote: โ†‘Thu Feb 08, 2024 6:57 am And Yes, Mr Virginia O. Possum will not be giving me any more problems. At least that one won't
Good!!

Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:44 pm
by Wambli Ska
Big Al1 wrote: โ†‘Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:27 pm I just LOVE science at work!! Now you need a tang sight and beech front sight!! :)
Damned handy program. Wish theyโ€™d do an Apple version.

Iโ€™m keeping this one in Crossfire Trail movie configuration. Save those for the โ€˜86 thatโ€™s in my future ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 3:55 pm
by Big Al1
I made mine the Tom Horn version!! :)
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Re: First set of test loads 45-60

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 4:52 pm
by Wambli Ska
Yepโ€ฆ. Iโ€™ll probably do one of those too someday. Love movie guns ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘