Watch the video

[Gene L]

https://www.forgottenweapons.com/sig-m5 ... rmy-rifle/

14#

[CPJ 2.0]

Ho-Lee Jeezus! This again.

[jkp]

From 2022?

[GrapeApe]

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[breamfisher]

And?

Say everyone here agrees with you... what will then happen?

[jwv2023]

It is "Forgotten Weapons" after all.

[Gene L]

What will then happen? You'll be informed. Can you change things? I doubt it. I also think the rifle is like the M 14, bound to be replaced by something more mobile. I remember quite clearly here hooting at this and reading the rifle weighed eight pounds. That's a BIG difference. The average infantry recruits hasn't lifted anything heavier than a computer mouse. And I think the possibility of going to war with enemies wearing ballistic vests is low.

There's a big difference. It's my army and yours, to think about in depth. A 14# rifle will change infantry tactics forever. That's my dead horse.

[breamfisher]

Might want to read Centermass's posts on this thread. He's someone who might know what he's talking abou.... aw hell, who am I kidding. You disregarded him then, don't know why you'll pay attention now.

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[CPJ 2.0]

Might want to read Centermass's posts on this thread. He's someone who might know what he's talking abou.... aw hell, who am I kidding. You disregarded him then, don't know why you'll pay attention now.

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Like he knows more than a guy on YouTube. Your dumb

[breamfisher]

No, u r!

[CPJ 2.0]

In the real world. If it’s 8 pounds or 14, it doesn’t matter to me. Or anyone else, really. Besides possibly the troops schlepping it. But if 6 extra pounds is going to be the deciding factor in winning a war, we were **** with a capital F to begin with.

Which, since you’ve got the scoop on new recruits lifting nothing heavier than a computer mouse, sounds like we may be in for a bad time ahead.

It’s up to us! Our hate will keep
us warm!

WOLVERINES!

[breamfisher]

Were you a member of an elite paramilitary organization? The "Eagle Scouts?"

[Gene L]

Were you a member of an elite paramilitary organization? The "Eagle Scouts?"

Yes I was a Ranger. I led a rifle platoon and a recon platoon back in 68 and 69 in Viet Nam.

I am dismayed that there seems to be so little respect here for the Infantry soldier. I thought such attitudes went away after the shameful treatment of veterans of that war led by Jane Fonda.

[CPJ 2.0]

Were you a member of an elite paramilitary organization? The "Eagle Scouts?"

I am dismayed that there seems to be so little respect here for the Infantry soldier. I thought such attitudes went away after the shameful treatment of veterans of that war led by Jane Fonda.

“ The average infantry recruits hasn't lifted anything heavier than a computer mouse.”


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[jbp-ohio]

Were you a member of an elite paramilitary organization? The "Eagle Scouts?"

Yes I was a Ranger. I led a rifle platoon and a recon platoon back in 68 and 69 in Viet Nam.

I am dismayed that there seems to be so little respect here for the Infantry soldier. I thought such attitudes went away after the shameful treatment of veterans of that war led by Jane Fonda.

CPJ was quoting the movie Red Dawn. ''Were you a member of an elite paramilitary organization? The "Eagle Scouts?" is another quote from that movie. Bream wasn't directing that at you. He should have Boomerproofed it by quoting CPJ.

[jbp-ohio]

Might want to read Centermass's posts on this thread. He's someone who might know what he's talking abou.... aw hell, who am I kidding. You disregarded him then, don't know why you'll pay attention now.

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Pfftttt..... he's just a Signal POG. He don't know nothin.

[breamfisher]

Are you disrespecting an infantry soldier?

(Sorry, I didn't quote but I am responding to JBP-Ohio's statement above mine. And yes, it's sparky and sarcastic.

[breamfisher]

Were you a member of an elite paramilitary organization? The "Eagle Scouts?"

Yes I was a Ranger. I led a rifle platoon and a recon platoon back in 68 and 69 in Viet Nam.

I am dismayed that there seems to be so little respect here for the Infantry soldier. I thought such attitudes went away after the shameful treatment of veterans of that war led by Jane Fonda.

CPJ was quoting the movie Red Dawn. ''Were you a member of an elite paramilitary organization? The "Eagle Scouts?" is another quote from that movie. Bream wasn't directing that at you. He should have Boomerproofed it by quoting CPJ.

I figured that having things in succession would provide ample context.

I was wrong.

I will say this... I put way more regard for the opinion of someone who's doing it now over others. If Centermasdsays it's good and actual, current end-users say it's good.... my opinion ain't squat.

[jbp-ohio]

Are you disrespecting an infantry soldier?

(Sorry, I didn't quote but I am responding to JBP-Ohio's statement above mine. And yes, it's sparky and sarcastic.

I'm just teasing. It would be more effective if he was on here. He's not an 11B. .He has the same job I did in the Army. 31M.

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[Justsomedude]

Vietnam? That the war that started from the Bay of Tonkin incident? What a massacre that was.
Oh wait..

[Gene L]

Yep, that the war